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knuckledragger1 1st Feb 2008 10:51

Spineless C**ts
 
F**K THIS BULLS**T

PIA NOW ! ! !

5% or Nothing gets off the ground.

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Bumpfoh 1st Feb 2008 11:19

knucklehead
 
Lets wait for the detail and take a deep breath in the mean time.:ugh:

There are many other ways other than 1 X 5 or 5 X 1 that equals 5, like say 3 plus 2 for example.

Hope that's not too deep for you.:ok:

dr skydrol 1st Feb 2008 12:02

I would have accepted 0% in return of ridding us of this current failing management.:confused: When I did my apprenticeship if you failed tech or was a druggo they sent you to EOC. Now these idiots are running Qf engineering. God help us.

knuckledragger1 1st Feb 2008 12:36

timeless truths never go out of fashion
 
Imagine An army of ONE, multiplied by 1600 LAME's

You might as well kiss your 1.4b profit goodbye.

Talkwrench 1st Feb 2008 13:09

Re: Headcone's post #86
 
Re: post #86: ‘Guys you could have done better than this had you persisted.’ Headcone, the EBA is not certified yet. It appears that you have some inside info on how we can do better if we persist. Can you please pass this information on to the ALAEA executive so they can act on it? Are you a member of the ALAEA or even a LAME? Where are you getting your inside info from? Thanks for any assistance.

knuckledragger1 1st Feb 2008 13:58

I am an LAME of One
 
I am a LAME of One (or 2, or 1600, ...),

I am a LAME of One - A LAME in the Qantas Airways army.

For years I was a loyal soldier in Hudson Fysh's army. Now I fight my own war.

I used to feel valued and respected. Now I know I am mere beancounter's fodder.

QANTAS used to exhibit labour leadership. Now QANTAS exploits legal loopholes.

QANTAS used to enjoy my JUDGEMENT. Now QANTAS suffers my COMPLIANCE.

I am a LAME of One.

I used to save QANTAS more than a thousand Hours of delay; finding the best MEL, getting involved and engaged, Staying back or coming in when the rosters were wrong, skimping during daily checks, adjusting my smokos for best utilisation, being smart and giving QANTAS every effort I could conjure. Now, it's "whatever whenever".

I used to call in defects on the radio, so that the parts required would be ready at the gate. Now, QANTAS will find the technical log write-up when they look in the handover.

I used to try to fix defects on the go, now I sit back and watch as the technical log hold items pile up.

I used to come in sick and work. Now I use my sick days, on short notice, on the worst days of the month.

I am a LAME of One.

I used to shut down the APU at the earliest possible moment. Now the cleaners and caterers enjoy extreme comfort.

I used to let the minutes of delay affect my judgement. I still do.

I used to cover mistakes by QANTAS management. Now I watch them unfold.

I used to hustle to ensure an on-time departure, to make QANTAS the best. Now I don't, because I realise QANTAS can never be the best with the current beancounters.

I used to call Maintenance Watch for Advice, to head off delays. Now I wait until departure minus 30 minutes for an REA (Request for Engineering Advice).

I'm on a new mission - to demonstrate that misguided leadership of indifference and disrespect has a cost. It's about character, not
contracts. It's about leading by taking care of your people instead of leadership by bean counters (an oxymoron).

I am a one-man wrecking crew - a LAME of One.

My mission used to be to make QANTAS rich.

Now it's to make QANTAS pay.

When QANTAS Retrenches more LAMEs than QANTAS employs apprentices, - I will make QANTAS pay.

When QANTAS under-staff bases and over-work LAMEs to keep LAMEs undergraded, glass ceilinged, or downtrodden - I will make QANTAS pay.

When customers are delayed boarding system wide, because transit time is reduced and Maintenance checks are skimped - I will make QANTAS pay.

When QANTAS force AMEs, who have waited years to become LAMEs, to be AMEs forever- I will make QANTAS pay.

When they ask QANTAS LAMEs to show leadership and discretion , and then deny LAMEs CPI pay Equality - I will make QANTAS pay.

When QANTAS call ex Heavy maintenance LAMEs in for the strikebreaking, just to mess with them again after retrenching them - I will make QANTAS pay.

When QANTAS constantly violate the letter and spirit of our EBA - an EBA that's a bargain by any measure, and force us to fight lengthy grievances - I will make QANTAS pay.

The ALAEA negotiating committee speaks for me, but I act on my own. I am a walking nightmare to the bean counters that made me.

Are you listening?

This mercenary LAME has a lot of years left with QANTAS; how long can QANTAS afford to keep me bitter?

I'm not looking for clauses in a contract,

I'm looking for a culture of commitment and caring. When I see it, I'll be a soldier for QANTAS again.

Until then, I am a LAME of One…And I am not alone!

knuckledragger1 1st Feb 2008 14:57

Spineless C**ts
 
Post this on the dunny wall if you have the balls,

and

by the way

F**k you all you scabbing overtime c**nts

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thosecotos 1st Feb 2008 20:15

Knuckledragger,

Please don't ever apply for a job over our way (VB) if you decide to cut ties with the Q. I don't know how you get out of bed in the morning with so much baggage weighing you down.

LAMEA380 1st Feb 2008 20:25

Knuckeldragger
 
Why dont you pin your own comments up so and let the rest of the world know who you are you neanderthal, you should not be allowed near an an airport let alone pretend to be a LAME, perhaps you should migrate to North Korea or Burma, they like your type in those countries.

Short_Circuit 1st Feb 2008 21:00

Knuckledragger1
There are a lot of QF boys who know where you are coming from, being driven to this place by constant floggings by useless management. They have created this mess and don't know how to fix it, just outsource the problem to someone else.
Its time someone fixed the problem. :cool:

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I mean, get behind the ALAEA, get a decent EBA (don't know what is on the table today) running and continue to fight for our survival and that of Qantas Engineering.

domo 1st Feb 2008 21:47

Very impressed with the union they have dealt with the important issues such as the running down of maintenance in australia and lack of training. We voted to give the Executive the mandate to get a better result and use P.I.A. to that means. now if the Executive endorse this eba and we vote it down what are we going to do then, I was not a big fan of the Executive when they were elected I thought they were hot headed and spoiling for a fight now I believe they can work with managent to improve the company for employees and shareholders

Knuckeldragger you dont seem to want to get this eba up, some qantas junior management dont want it to get up either, get my drift.

knuckledragger1 2nd Feb 2008 01:10

Domo you are a stooge,

Why don't you go back to Japan?

or were you shafted there?

I sense a disillusioned company man?

Hard to take isn't it,

once being a loyal Qantas soldier

then the generals - sorry beancounters sell you out,

makes you feel foolish, a little angry perhaps?

maybe its time to stop patching the holes with ricepaper and let it all hang out.

:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh: :ugh::ugh::ugh:

FCMC 2nd Feb 2008 02:56

I am an LAME of One

Great post Knuckledragger and so true. This will take years to sort out and get back to normal if at all. The damage has been done.Can anyone actually tell me what M & DC have actually achieved for the company over the years.They have only broken everything to no real advantage.

Yes I too really wanted some stopworks. I have the money to cover it but SP must consider the global view of the membership who have many families and mortgages. A brilliant job guys and thank goodness they are running the show rather than the previous executives.

Well Hello! those DMMs in SYD & BNE that left the association in anticipation of PIA. That wasn't very clever was it. We all know who you are. Oh and the Boys at ADL ITB we know about you too!!!!:E

dr skydrol 2nd Feb 2008 04:03

knuckledragger1
 
Well done:D. I,m with you all the way. Qantas doesn't realise what they've lost. For years I have skipped lunch,gone above and beyond to minimise delays as well.No more. I follow their stupid procedures to their detrement.It is not the intelligence of the Lame that has made Qf engineering a success, but the training we received in the Qf system that has made me what I am today.That is all gone. 85 years of engineering excellence gone in 2 years of mismanagement. The last course I did was how throw teddy bears around a room full of "Amazing people". Gee wiz that has been a great help. I don't mean to delay aircraft I am just following your procedures so be greatful. Its what you wanted.:mad: off back to EOC you idiots before the damage is irreversible.Imagine if they became Mc Donalds managers, you would have to go to KFC for a Big Mac cause they be outsourced.
If 3% is all they give then thats what they'll get back.

Gone Sailing 2nd Feb 2008 14:51

EOC ????
 
M and his mates buggered EOC, to the point where they have engines in the shop for over 12 months now... not obsolete engines like the JT3 that they kept running for the RAAF, but RB211-524G's.

I went to see some mates in eoc one xmas and they were putting up banners that read ' 200.. The year of the 90 day engine ' ... the next year, they were putting up banners that read ' 200.. The year of the 120 day engine '

They have an RB211 that has been in the shop for over 12 months now...

M is a slash and burn man, we need to rebuild what he has destroyed with his ignorance, arogance and stupidity. He and his cronies must go so that we can get on with the task, the long an expensive task...

What will the real cost be.......

Clipped 2nd Feb 2008 21:18

Isn't that a Centre of Excellence?

My God, this lot must deploy some technical spin so the bean counters never take into account the outrageous costs incurred here and everywhere else M and his cronies have leaned with their exceptional business skills.

Q is being gutted and are they too stupid to realise it ... or just too arrogant?

hannibal lector 2nd Feb 2008 21:38

What did the boys at ADL ITB do?????

Gone Sailing 3rd Feb 2008 00:06

M simply does not understand what it is that he is managing.

Anyone who has heard him speak will know and fear this fact.

For me it is not whether he figures it out but whether the board figures it out and acts accordingly and removes the problem.

chemical alli 3rd Feb 2008 06:42

so where is mr itookdamoney now ? to the so called stikebreakers/scabs who signed the dotted line, how does it feel that your names will be forever tarnished,the lists will be published both here and o/s so enjoy the silver you have sold your soul for while it lasts.

Short_Circuit 3rd Feb 2008 07:05

I can't wait to see the list, see who was about to stab us in the backs!:mad:


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