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sfde 1st Aug 2008 05:02

I think my manager ate your manager.

1me 1st Aug 2008 06:53

EP
 
Well you don't have to have a long neck to be a goose now do you?

Toolpants 2nd Aug 2008 07:26

It’s good to see QF management know exactly what they are doing.
Did they really thing they could do so much damage and have it all be fixed overnight.

Qantas On time performance:
1-Aug-2008 = 38% on time.
2-Aug-2008 = day is not over yet but currently 50%.

Data FlightStats

Mr Invisible 2nd Aug 2008 13:01

I'm waiting for the Exec to turn up and give us a rundown of the EBA offer but was wondering how it's been received so far ?
On a side note I was told that a no confidence vote in engineering management was raised in Brisbane is this true ? will a petition be raised for us to sign ?

Millet Fanger 2nd Aug 2008 23:02

A petition could never be started where engineering staff could register no confidence in the present engineering management due to OH&S reasons.
There would be too many injuries caused by the rush to sign!!!

1me 4th Aug 2008 04:20

EBA 8 Benefits statement.
 
Well I received my "Proposed LAME EBA 8 Benefits Statement" in the mail today, but as yet still no sign of the actual EBA 8 document..

Makes me wonder...:hmm:

Annulus Filler 4th Aug 2008 09:24

Received documents and CD today. It is a big YES from me. Well done to all.

NAS1801 4th Aug 2008 10:32


On a side note I was told that a no confidence vote in engineering management was raised in Brisbane is this true?
Let's hope it was true!!! Replace the managers that came from non-heavy maintenance backgrounds with those that have. Someone who understands how heavy maintenance should be run because they have been there/done that.

1me 4th Aug 2008 12:51

Maybe mister postman will bring my CD tomorrow! ;)

1me 4th Aug 2008 12:54

How big is the file on the CD? Is it able to be emailed?

The masked goatrider 4th Aug 2008 13:10

Transmission has always been there. This is from EBA 4 clause 38.


38 TRANSMISSION OF BUSINESS

38.1 Where a' business is before or after the date of this Agreement transmitted from an employer. (in this subclause called "the transmitter") to' another employer (in this subclause called "the transmittee") and an employee of the transmitter in that business becomes an employee of the transmittee:

38.1.1 The continuity of the employment of the employee shall be deemed not to have been broken by reason of such transmission and;

38.1.2 The period of employment which the employee has had with the transmitter shall be deemed to be service of the employer with the transmittee.

38.1.3 In this subclause "business" includes trade, process, business or occupation and includes part of any such business, and "transmission" include/s transfer, conveyance, assignment or succession whether by agreement or by operation of law and "transmitted, has a corresponding meaning.

division1 4th Aug 2008 13:42

Nice to see reward for our increased compliance and technology
obligations. The negotiation team have done an outstanding job.

max1 5th Aug 2008 01:34

From todays Courier Mail.

Mr Cox said the latest round of safety scares had nothing to do with the airline's growing reliance on overseas maintenance firms.

He said Qantas employed 7000 engineers in Australia and 2000 of them conducted heavy maintenance.

"So that means the vast majority, and I mean the vast majority, of our work is actually done here in Australia and has been for many, many years and will continue to be," he said.

Is this correct?

1me 5th Aug 2008 04:39

Got the CD today.. quite laborious reading though..

Dockie 5th Aug 2008 05:50

Re:Max1

From todays Courier Mail.

Mr Cox said the latest round of safety scares had nothing to do with the airline's growing reliance on overseas maintenance firms.

He said Qantas employed 7000 engineers in Australia and 2000 of them conducted heavy maintenance.

"So that means the vast majority, and I mean the vast majority, of our work is actually done here in Australia and has been for many, many years and will continue to be," he said.

Is this correct?

Another lie by DC. He is obviously including the Forstaff guys at AVV.
The sooner he goes the better. A desperate statement by a desperate
manager.

Short_Circuit 5th Aug 2008 07:48

DC employed 7000 maintenance staff BUT must have sacked 5000 maintenance staff because 2000 is all we have.

WTF

We still do not have enough staff in Australia to keep the fleet flying without reducing flying>>>>>>>>>>:ugh::mad::ugh:

binrow 5th Aug 2008 07:55

re D Cox Statment
 
According to the 2007 annual report QE employees around 6000 people in it maintenatce facilitys including AVV (NOT TO MANY ACTUAL QF STAFF-APPOLIGIES TO THE FORSTAFF BOYS) BNE,MEL AND SYD AND QDS this is stated on pgs 23 and 26 its a long way short of 7000 engineers :=


But thats OK as its only a small lie.

Toolpants 5th Aug 2008 10:49

Received my benefits statement today.
I'm happy.

Thanks SP and all the ALAEA reps / exec. Well done.

1me 5th Aug 2008 12:57

Toolpants
 
Just be sure to read the fine print of the whole document.. As someone stated previously.. "the devil is in the detail..."

Everyone, please make sure you fully understand the entire document and don't just look at the numbers. As you know this document is a consolidation of many other documents/awards and spells out our conditions. I'd hate for us to be distracted by the numbers only to have some prickly little clause slip through un-noticed and bite us on the proverbial.

Collando 5th Aug 2008 15:44

Long service leave
 
Appedix H of document page 84

I thought you were entitled to long service leave after ten years?
Para 2H.2.1a states initial entitalment after fifteen years.
Has this changed?


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