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domo 7th Jul 2008 07:58

fedsec any meeting with the company this week?

blackhander 7th Jul 2008 08:02

Domo, fedsec in BNE H3 today, said there was a meeting on tomorrow.

The cougar 7th Jul 2008 08:56

Everyone ignore redhawk and he will go away, as for the Dr itz not original I stated my error as to the AGM, and get in touch with one of our strike breakers in LA and learn the truth!

sky rocket 7th Jul 2008 09:03

Cougar, I remember you admitting your error. Only wish management could do the same!

stiffnut 7th Jul 2008 09:35

Level 12 is also known as the bunker [ by dmm's, foreman and people a bit higher than us], somebody mentioned last week it could be like hitler in his last days in the bunker, only hope so, can somebody pass in the poison and the gun and put us all out of our misery.

UP D Date 7th Jul 2008 10:12

The backlog of work is apparently climbing at 2000 manhours a week, to be slightly over 12000 manhours according to a source in planning, I think the sue for peace could happen sooner than later, but there is always the inept stupidity of management, so you never know:ugh:

Dockie 7th Jul 2008 10:16

I found this little gem on the Lean site at work.

"You should submit wisdom to the company.
If you don't have any wisdom to contribute, submit sweat.
If nothing else, work hard and don't sleep. Or resign."
Taiichi Ohno

After reading this, my first thought was "God help us".:rolleyes:

wantsta 7th Jul 2008 10:50


Originally Posted by Flugbegleiter (Post 4227258)
Geez, this management is such a bunch of wankers. Wouldn't it be easier just to say, "Look, you guys have all worked hard and copped a lot over the last 10 years, so we're going to give you a 5% pay increase per year; you, the engineers and everyone! Hoorah!"??

The baggage handlers have the same problem as cabin crew: it is too easy to train up a temporary strike-breaking work force. But maybe, in conjunction with you guys, they might actually get somewhere.


Lol, might just have to wait for the "management loaders" to get all the bags loaded in the fwd loacker, before pointing out that the belt loader drive motor sounds a bit suspect and needs a close up inspection. What a shame all those bags will have to come off again. :ok:

wantsta 7th Jul 2008 11:00


Originally Posted by redhawk37 (Post 4227351)
I dont know -maybe right! I also dont care, he will be gone soon and he has dug in, we will never shift him and the environment is so drastically different we are just giving him a stick to beat us with. Our main public argument now when people question why we are taking action in these tough times is "well look at GD's salary and those filthy shareholders are going to make all that profit" Has it ever crosssed the ALAEA's mind that oridnary aussies are those filthy shareholders. the same people who we ask to support us? And in fact, the dividends for most of them are small - for most. And they are the people we all need to keep investing otherwise we really will not have jobs. GD has that part right.

If GD didnt finish high school his career has been pretty impresssive then you would have to admit.


Instead of whining and complaining or licking GD's ass, grow a spine will you !!!

Divide and conquer doesn't work anymore pal.
This here is a new order and an exec with balls and smarts to back it up, keep guessing GD, goose.

Nasty Piece of Work 7th Jul 2008 11:31

My rep has just told me that "MANAGEMENT OUT OF THE BLUE, CANCELED THE EBA MEETING SET DOWN FOR TOMORROW" anyone know anymore ? Are they just pig headed and stupid or can't they stand dealing with people with integrity who won't sell out ?

I'm so angry I just ripped the head off my 'I luv Geoff' doll and flushed it down the toilet but it's ok I'll blame the engineers and call it sabotage

ALAEA Fed Sec 7th Jul 2008 11:46

Meeting tomorrow is canx guys because a couple of us union guys can't make it due to other commitments. Not sure why but I think they want us all there.

Jethro Gibbs 7th Jul 2008 12:05

other commitments ?
i would have thought this would be your first at this time more delays !

Sunfish 7th Jul 2008 12:05

Re the "Floor Twelve" business, when the tide goes out, watch people evacuate their high altitude offices, and try and be just " some guys amongst the rest of the people". With no particular responsibility for what has gone on.


Seen it before.....

ALAEA Fed Sec 7th Jul 2008 12:47


other commitments ?
i would have thought this would be your first at this time more delays !
We do have other members also. I am glad I didn't go to every one of the 41 official and 12 or so unofficial EBA meetings. If I did our office would not be functioning right now. Tomorrow we have a staff member on his last day and I need to help him do a hand over and then there is a more detailed notice on fuel tank entry, visit to mel for tech staff EBA, paperwork to lodge for PIA ballots at Forstaff, media prep for next week, ACTU debrief on new award consolidation and if you don't mind, I may try and get some lunch in.

NAS1801 7th Jul 2008 12:53

For those that have not done your harrassment training online, here's a little gem I saw today. It's from the pdf file that pops up about half way through. (Human resources policy manual Ch 3:4-2)

What is a Grievance? A grievance is any employment related matter that the employee feels is:

• Unjust, or unfair, or
• Causes resentment, suffering or distress.
Sound's like managemnets treatment of staff....

Grievances can stem from a variety of reasons, which if left unresolved, may Lead to:

• Poor productivity
• Absenteeism,
• Low morale,
• Staff turnover, and
• Industrial disputes.
I rest my case.

The cougar 7th Jul 2008 13:40

Fed Sec, if its any consolation your doing a top job!

chanel1234 7th Jul 2008 18:55

Mr Fed Sec has better things to do than meet with QF to try to sort this out.

What a hypocrite, MR FED SEC you are paid to sort this out, as for the crap excuse, i cannot belive what i am reading.

Member anxiety is at an all time high , but not to worry gotta to do some sort of hand over and prepare for media interviews next week.

GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD. MEMBERS are hurting, attend every meeting

If the Rail strike goes ahead in NSW you are finished, You are loosing the PR War, i figure you will put a notice in next week, fabulous and a total PR disaster.

Not to worry, we will potpone the meeting with QF, power has gone to your head.

stoned philosopher 7th Jul 2008 20:06

Thank You.
 
Don't blame the execs, they are working their @rses off for the membership. It's QE using any excuse to buy more time. When this is over I hope we can show the execs our appreciation, especially when they have to attend to matters on their time off. Perhaps a 5% bonus for the full time staff and a 50% reduction in union fees for the next 5 years for the voluntary members! Wot youse reckon?

stoned P

blubak 7th Jul 2008 22:10

another meeting??
 
Have they made another time for the meeting or nothing planned yet?

F.O.G. 8th Jul 2008 00:31

is that a red hawk? no? maybe a GOOey WRASSE?


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