Ex RAAF ATC's need to get a life
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Ex RAAF ATC's need to get a life
It has become apparent recently that a contingent of ex RAAF and/or current serving controller's need to get on with their lives and stop screwing with other's.
Recently scurrilous and incorrect information from a persons past was underhandedly passed onto a potential employer for no other reason than sheer spite.
People who want to engage themselves in matters such as these need to remember that what may have happened in Service life really has no bearing on civilian life as the Services are an insular and self serving organisation that bears little or no resemblance to the real world.
After 15 years in and 3 years out of the RAAF I have come to the realisation that RAAF ATC (with the exception of a few and they know who they are if they know who I am) was the breeding ground for the biggest group of backstabbing ****wits who would do anything possible to be one-up on their fellow workmates.
Now with this distasteful event they have proved that they can't get on with their lives and have to live in the past and continue to try and get one up on potential future workmates!
So forget the past and do something about reversing your obviously miserable outlook on life. Talk about a bad case of Kharma debt!!!!!
Recently scurrilous and incorrect information from a persons past was underhandedly passed onto a potential employer for no other reason than sheer spite.
People who want to engage themselves in matters such as these need to remember that what may have happened in Service life really has no bearing on civilian life as the Services are an insular and self serving organisation that bears little or no resemblance to the real world.
After 15 years in and 3 years out of the RAAF I have come to the realisation that RAAF ATC (with the exception of a few and they know who they are if they know who I am) was the breeding ground for the biggest group of backstabbing ****wits who would do anything possible to be one-up on their fellow workmates.
Now with this distasteful event they have proved that they can't get on with their lives and have to live in the past and continue to try and get one up on potential future workmates!
So forget the past and do something about reversing your obviously miserable outlook on life. Talk about a bad case of Kharma debt!!!!!
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well well
So its not just GA pilots that bitch about each other. dosent it make you sick that in a "proffessional" enviornment poeple participate in this behavior.
May be I might start a thread on this
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Not All Industries
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Not all industries participate it back stabbing. It seems that the industries that do are the ones that have scurrilous individuals who will attempt to screw you over at every turn. There are some industries such as IT which I am employed in currently that don't . I guess the reason for this is amount of unspecialised employees so there is no need to partake.
I can't see things improving when you have thousands upon thousands of wannabe aviators vying for what is regarded as made it. Whatever that may be. I guess its seeped into the industry and like it or not (as I don't) its here to stay. Jealously is a curse and a human trait that won't subside in this case.
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Maybe you could fill the viewer is as to what exactly happened...
Ang
Not all industries participate it back stabbing. It seems that the industries that do are the ones that have scurrilous individuals who will attempt to screw you over at every turn. There are some industries such as IT which I am employed in currently that don't . I guess the reason for this is amount of unspecialised employees so there is no need to partake.
I can't see things improving when you have thousands upon thousands of wannabe aviators vying for what is regarded as made it. Whatever that may be. I guess its seeped into the industry and like it or not (as I don't) its here to stay. Jealously is a curse and a human trait that won't subside in this case.
Son of koko
Maybe you could fill the viewer is as to what exactly happened...
Ang
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Sorry Ang, I posted this as a third party and don't want to be too descriptive so as to keep the identity of the person who was "wronged" confidential. Just to reiterate what happens in the Services should stay right there; (unless it involves some type of crime, which then becomes public record, because the police would be involved).... and it wasn't!!!
The whole thrust of this, is to vent a bit, as this type of activity has gone on for long enough. Let people get on with their lives and stop dicking around with families and futures.
The whole thrust of this, is to vent a bit, as this type of activity has gone on for long enough. Let people get on with their lives and stop dicking around with families and futures.
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SoK:
Is this the classic case of "Well my `friend' has this problem"
Seriously though.. Was the matter something that would effect flight safety or give a future employee a reason to doubt a persons ability to ensure flight safety?
If it's something that would concern a future employee perhaps it's a matter that would concern all of us.
I don't think you can really go throwing mud at the entire Air Traffic community in the RAAF and then not even explain the specifics.
Is this the classic case of "Well my `friend' has this problem"
Seriously though.. Was the matter something that would effect flight safety or give a future employee a reason to doubt a persons ability to ensure flight safety?
If it's something that would concern a future employee perhaps it's a matter that would concern all of us.
I don't think you can really go throwing mud at the entire Air Traffic community in the RAAF and then not even explain the specifics.
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You mention the fact of "incorrect" information being passed. Surely if there was some form of incident/problem in the past, it would be documented if serious enough. Otherwise, is it just a case of a person's word against another's? (I'm not trying to stir, just being a RAAF-brat, and having worked with several ex-RAAF guys, similar conversations have popped up before!)
And, purely for my own knowledge, you mention the RAAF as being insular. Yet are there instances where civil and military circles will mix in a work environment (I was thinking along the lines of joint user airfields life Townsville). Would there be some sort of blending of "cultures", if you will?
BTW, nothing wrong with venting!!
And, purely for my own knowledge, you mention the RAAF as being insular. Yet are there instances where civil and military circles will mix in a work environment (I was thinking along the lines of joint user airfields life Townsville). Would there be some sort of blending of "cultures", if you will?
BTW, nothing wrong with venting!!
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I know what you are getting at and no it's not me. Don't live in Australia haven't for a few years and won't in the forseeable future! Won't elaborate and don't want to get into a mudslinging match. Just wanted to vent and hopefully draw a comment or two. Watch your backs!!
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This is not a case of Son of Koko describing something that happened to himself. I am actually the subject of his vent and I thank him for his concern. It turns out that the disparaging and false annonomous information passed onto an Australian ATC employer about me had the desired effect of those concerned and I was not offered the job. I may have been very pi#$ed off had I actually wanted the job but I am now off to backpack around the world with my girlfriend. I'm pretty sure I got the better deal.
The fact remains that SOK's point has been illustrated beautifully by this event. There remains an element in RAAF ATC (and other parts of the services and aviation I'm guessing) whom will always seek to promote themselves by disparaging and rubbishing others. Usually those individuals are below par in actual job performance and seek to retain some perception of worth in the eyes of their superiors by nefarious, underhanded and questionable means. It will always be a fact of life in a political and competitive environment. I have no idea how you get around it if you just want to go to work and do your job, except quit, which is what I eventually did. Pity I really enjoyed the job but I don't regret my desicion to leave for a moment.
Thanks again for your voice of support and reason over the years SOK. I know you too are a great believer in karma and I have never doubted that what goes around will always come back to haunt. I sleep the sleep of a man vindicated.
The fact remains that SOK's point has been illustrated beautifully by this event. There remains an element in RAAF ATC (and other parts of the services and aviation I'm guessing) whom will always seek to promote themselves by disparaging and rubbishing others. Usually those individuals are below par in actual job performance and seek to retain some perception of worth in the eyes of their superiors by nefarious, underhanded and questionable means. It will always be a fact of life in a political and competitive environment. I have no idea how you get around it if you just want to go to work and do your job, except quit, which is what I eventually did. Pity I really enjoyed the job but I don't regret my desicion to leave for a moment.
Thanks again for your voice of support and reason over the years SOK. I know you too are a great believer in karma and I have never doubted that what goes around will always come back to haunt. I sleep the sleep of a man vindicated.
