BE200 XHV
always thought that the grass would have been my choice.....
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They say that the foam they spray on can cause more damage than the wheels up landing!
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It’s a bit old school
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yeahnah sorta, the chances of the AC touching down on the foam blanket AND stopping on the foam blanket is pretty slim and foaming an entire runway just to make sure would cost about 100k in foam not to mention, the trucks don’t carry enough to even do that.
It’s a bit old school
It’s a bit old school
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There's a lot to like about the pilot's account of the incident but I particularly liked his opening advice to Nine's Today Show that they were "overselling it".
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Having done lots of landings on grassed runways I can confirm that's a massive difference between a well-used grass runway and the "rough" grassed areas alongside it that hasn't seen traffic since the last time it got slashed. The grass is usually longer - sometimes much longer - and you can't see rabbit holes, swampy bits, drainage culverts, roos or even sheep sometimes. In peacetime I'd pick the hard stuff every time. The fact the surface was wet was an absolute bonus. I hope someone had a cup of tea ready for old mate who executed a textbook landing after putting another, what - 3.5 hours in the logs, burning off fuel?
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struggling with accuracy suggested the Pilot was dumping fuel for 3.5 hours? Cannot recall the King Air having that capability
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B200 fuel dumping can only occur with the gear retracted. If the gear in transit light is on the system is deactivated. Explains why he held for so long
The most recent (-F010+) and later models of the B200 won't allow fuel dumping unless the gear is retracted and the media have been informed of the incident.
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Know your aircraft, Mustang in Victoria had a gear problem and decided to land on the grass, belly scoop acted as a plough and caused extensive damage, including buckled fuselage frames, as it scooped up earth and grass. Not shown in many of the flight manuals, but WWII P-51 advice was to land gear up on the bitumen, just a bit of sheet metal work required on the belly, not a major rebuild that grass would require. War time the aircraft on grass may have been scrapped.
Love it!
Just so ATC don't feel left out in the "If it wasn't for me it all would have been a lot worse stakes."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-...ency/103855378
Not blaming the Flt Lt but RAAF Media wanted a piece of the action especially this quote:
I'm sure that the pilot didn't need any talking through the issue. I'm absolutely sure the pilot was telling ATC what his requirements were and ATC did their utmost to assist.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-...ency/103855378
Not blaming the Flt Lt but RAAF Media wanted a piece of the action especially this quote:
Flight Lieutenant Bree Woollett talked pilot Peter Schott through the drama over Newcastle when the landing gear on his Beechcraft Super King Air failed after take-off on Monday morning, setting off an emergency much of the country watched unfold online and on television.
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So unkind, LL! How do you know FLTLT Wollett doesn't have a couple of thousand hours on the King Air?
(Seriously, as LL says and implies: Well done ATC and well done the PIC. So called 'journalists'? Pass me a bucket.)
(Seriously, as LL says and implies: Well done ATC and well done the PIC. So called 'journalists'? Pass me a bucket.)
This happened back in September 2008: "VH-URU was involved in a nasty 'wheels-up' incident at Adelaide Airport in September 2008 when after a departure, its wheels didn't fully retract, so the aircraft was forced to make an emergency landing. The King Air landed with the gear up and all passengers and crew evacuated after the aircraft came to a stop. Thousands witnessed the incident as the Qantas Airways Airbus A380 VH-OQA was about 45 minutes from arriving into Adelaide for the very first time."
The aircraft was flown by a very good friend of mine. I believe he invited everyone around to his house for a beer & a barbie afterwards!
DF.
The aircraft was flown by a very good friend of mine. I believe he invited everyone around to his house for a beer & a barbie afterwards!
DF.
Just so ATC don't feel left out in the "If it wasn't for me it all would have been a lot worse stakes."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-...ency/103855378
Not blaming the Flt Lt but RAAF Media wanted a piece of the action especially this quote:
I'm sure that the pilot didn't need any talking through the issue. I'm absolutely sure the pilot was telling ATC what his requirements were and ATC did their utmost to assist.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-...ency/103855378
Not blaming the Flt Lt but RAAF Media wanted a piece of the action especially this quote:
I'm sure that the pilot didn't need any talking through the issue. I'm absolutely sure the pilot was telling ATC what his requirements were and ATC did their utmost to assist.
- In short: RAAF air traffic controller Bree Woollett says Monday's wheels-up landing was "the most intense" emergency she has been involved in.
- Pilot Peter Schott, who circled the city for several hours in order to burn off fuel, said his watch showed his heart rate did not exceed 80bpm throughout the ordeal.
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Happened frequently during the Berlin Airlift, my father used to regale us with an incident at Gatow where an Avro Lancastrian carry 1/2cwt bags of coal crashed and caught fire, crew smashed their way through the glasshouse, the wreckage got bulldozed off to the side while still burning, landings resumed within 30 minutes.
Sent a few 727s and DC-9s over to Edinburgh for a while.
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