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wheelyfunny 13th May 2024 01:31

Kingair Belly Landing YWLM
 
Happening now......The media reports are comical

OPSH24 13th May 2024 01:41

BE200 XHV
 
Scheduled NTL-PQQ but news.com.au reporting gear problem. Anyone know what's going on? https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/VHXDV https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...8bc04f89ce8142

Thoughts and hope for the crew and pax.

Saintly 13th May 2024 02:18

Hope everyone on board the aircraft will be ok.

turbantime 13th May 2024 02:24

ABC just showed it land. Brilliant job, well done to the pilot(s).

nomess 13th May 2024 02:25

Landed and evacuated. Emergency services not required, only to now pull it off the runway.

Nice landing too buddy. 10/10. Well done.

reefrat 13th May 2024 02:33

Top job greasing the landing

Saintly 13th May 2024 02:34

VH-XDV

Thirsty 13th May 2024 02:40

FlightRadar warning
 
Warning: watching the flightpath on FlightRadar24 will make you dizzy!
Glad it ended OK and all are safe.
in the landing video somebody is overheard to comment 'Dun dat well' Bravo.

Stationair8 13th May 2024 03:17

Nice job.

ABC reporting the engines were powered down for landing. Is that something that CASA mandates these days?


AnotherFSO 13th May 2024 03:39


AnotherFSO 13th May 2024 03:39


Ex FSO GRIFFO 13th May 2024 03:47

Question for those 'in the know'.......


In such a case, for both the aircraft and the outcome, is it better to land on the grass, less friction, = less damage(?), or the hard bitumen?


I witnessed a Be55 Baron at Perth many moons ago land on the bitumen at YPPH and the noise was 'shrieking', in that one could imagine the metal underbelly being ripped open like a sardine can.....whereas on the grass would be 'softer' would it not?


I remember the C.310 at SY many many moons ago, when the pilot selected the grass, made a long approach, engines off, used the starter motors to align the two-bladed props horizontal, and slid it along the grass, with what was described as 'minimal damage'.....


Never had to do it, but, always thought that the grass would have been my choice.......


OVAH!
P.S.......'WELL DONE' that pilot

drpixie 13th May 2024 04:00


Originally Posted by Ex FSO GRIFFO (Post 11654078)
Question for those 'in the know'.......
In such a case, for both the aircraft and the outcome, is it better to land on the grass, less friction, = less damage(?), or the hard bitumen?

We always tell pilots, if you have to, use the longest and hardest runway you can get.

It will sound horrible (search youtube). But for small/medium aircraft, expect very little hull damage - new beacons, new props & engines, lick of paint and it's good to go! And anyway, it's an insurance job, so safety is much more important than extent of repairs.

For landings on grass, there is a good chance of something digging into a lump/bump/soft-patch and then there will be rapid deceleration and spinning/flipping - not such a good outcome.


Squawk7700 13th May 2024 04:30

Excellent job, super smooth by the pilot!

I chuckled ever so slightly when I saw right rudder kicked in during the very final moments. I wonder what rudder authority is like with the wheels up at low speed!

Lookleft 13th May 2024 04:49

For the reasons given above and also the emergency services can get to you quicker if you stay on the bitumen. Contrary to popular belief, aircraft do not simply blow up if landing wheels up.

magyar_flyer 13th May 2024 04:49

Very well executed indeed 👍

Saintly 13th May 2024 06:46


Originally Posted by Ex FSO GRIFFO (Post 11654078)
Question for those 'in the know'.......


In such a case, for both the aircraft and the outcome, is it better to land on the grass, less friction, = less damage(?), or the hard bitumen?


I witnessed a Be55 Baron at Perth many moons ago land on the bitumen at YPPH and the noise was 'shrieking', in that one could imagine the metal underbelly being ripped open like a sardine can.....whereas on the grass would be 'softer' would it not?


I remember the C.310 at SY many many moons ago, when the pilot selected the grass, made a long approach, engines off, used the starter motors to align the two-bladed props horizontal, and slid it along the grass, with what was described as 'minimal damage'.....


Never had to do it, but, always thought that the grass would have been my choice.......


OVAH!
P.S.......'WELL DONE' that pilot

Runway surface was wet today at Newcastle. Must of had rain. That would of reduced some of the friction when the aircraft landed on the runway with its belly. The pilot did really well = 10/10.

ghyde 13th May 2024 06:55

Great Work by Pilot.

Assembled crowd may have been disappointed with no fire or crash.

krismiler 13th May 2024 07:14

The runway is hard, flat, straight and regularly inspected. I’d rather put down on one than chance it on the grass which might result in something digging in and possibly flipping the aircraft over. There might be a bit more metal scraped off the underside but it’s an insurance job and there will be a fair bit of work needed anyway. It’s also faster and easier for emergency services to get to an aircraft on the runway.

prickly 13th May 2024 07:46


Originally Posted by wheelyfunny (Post 11654055)
Happening now......The media reports are comical

Yes they are. Robyn over at The Australian considers it a "miracle" landing and the pilot is a hero.

"Just doin my job maam"


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