Lizard Island - Aircraft Overshoot.
I have been reading this, and a few previous reports, what stands out to me, is that we might have an issue with forced landings, be it partial or no power, and managing the energy on approach. Most reports have one thing in common, everyone is coming in way too fast. I’ve just read three reports in which aircraft have ended up overshooting, to planned returns to a runway.
I am aware that 208 Pilots do conduct training before checked out with turn back training and so on.
What techniques are used these days to teach the young pilots to burn the speed? I assume S turns on final was a common one. I know it’s something that probably isn’t done enough, and generally only taught at a home base airport only a couple of times before a flight test.
I am aware that 208 Pilots do conduct training before checked out with turn back training and so on.
What techniques are used these days to teach the young pilots to burn the speed? I assume S turns on final was a common one. I know it’s something that probably isn’t done enough, and generally only taught at a home base airport only a couple of times before a flight test.
What techniques are used these days to teach the young pilots to burn the speed? I assume S turns on final was a common one. I know it’s something that probably isn’t done enough, and generally only taught at a home base airport only a couple of times before a flight test.
What I have personally noted, in many glide approaches be it real or simulated, is many establish themselves on final, apply flap generally late, and just hope for the best. Most end up down the far end of the runway. No effort is made to pull back that speed, I put that down to non existent training.
I’ve also found many instructors get nervous with these approaches, they don’t all advise what you should do if you find one self too fast/high. Many simply just perform a missed approach, and do it again, however doing this and that a bit earlier. More education on the ground can be had, doesn’t all need to be in the air if the training organisation doesn’t permit such manoeuvres. Sideslip, S turns, or simply conducting a turn off final, burn some speed, then turn back in. So many options to get oneself successfully on the ground, I don’t think many are trained well for what is the most important part of the forced landing.
I was reading a report on the flipped 210 on Groote. Very similar to this. Speed off the charts, went for a tour down the runway before ending upside down way past the end.
I’ve also found many instructors get nervous with these approaches, they don’t all advise what you should do if you find one self too fast/high. Many simply just perform a missed approach, and do it again, however doing this and that a bit earlier. More education on the ground can be had, doesn’t all need to be in the air if the training organisation doesn’t permit such manoeuvres. Sideslip, S turns, or simply conducting a turn off final, burn some speed, then turn back in. So many options to get oneself successfully on the ground, I don’t think many are trained well for what is the most important part of the forced landing.
I was reading a report on the flipped 210 on Groote. Very similar to this. Speed off the charts, went for a tour down the runway before ending upside down way past the end.
Is anyone else noticing a larger number of Caravan engine issues/failures at the moment?
Aviation Safety Network > > ASN Aviation Safety Database results (aviation-safety.net)
Aviation Safety Network > > ASN Aviation Safety Database results (aviation-safety.net)
Yes, they do. If you read them, there has been six engine-related accidents or incidents within the last 6 months. That is one a month in what I would agree is a 'very well proven combo'.
Last edited by Jabberwocky82; 26th Mar 2024 at 21:05.
Originally Posted by Jabberwocky82
Yes, they do. If you read them, there has been six engine-related accidents or incidents within the last 6 months. That is one a month in what I would agree is a 'very well proven combo'.
Although this is a rumour network so who really cares?
