Light aircraft down near McKinlay, Qld
All I’m hearing is structural / left wing
Gulfstream 695A JetProp Commander, registered VH-HPY, about 30 NM south-east of Cloncurry
Doesn't say anything we don't know already.
Given the altitude it departed controlled flight from, it is conceivable that it exceeded structural limits in the dive and broke up on descent, so that does not necessarily mean it broke up prior to loss of control. That's if it broke up at all. There's a lot of information still to be released as to what happened.
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Given the altitude it departed controlled flight from, it is conceivable that it exceeded structural limits in the dive and broke up on descent, so that does not necessarily mean it broke up prior to loss of control. That's if it broke up at all. There's a lot of information still to be released as to what happened.
If it was running on aux tanks and depressurized then it may have exhausted that tank short of the destination, resulting in an engine out, and there would be still significant mains fuel left, as mentioned above, Pilot is unconcious, cant correct and so on. If it had single tank to engine set up it would have enough endurance to fly well passed the destination. Which makes depressurization less likely.
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If it was running on aux tanks and depressurized then it may have exhausted that tank short of the destination, resulting in an engine out, and there would be still significant mains fuel left, as mentioned above, Pilot is unconcious, cant correct and so on. If it had single tank to engine set up it would have enough endurance to fly well passed the destination. Which makes depressurization less likely.
Training exercise gone wrong?
Was this a training flight or a Part 138 operation? If it was a 138 op and the pilot in the left seat was doing ICUS, why would the trainer in the right seat simulate or shut down an engine with another person in the back. Might explain if it was a CASA FOI in the back.
Was this a training flight or a Part 138 operation? If it was a 138 op and the pilot in the left seat was doing ICUS, why would the trainer in the right seat simulate or shut down an engine with another person in the back. Might explain if it was a CASA FOI in the back.
Training exercise gone wrong?
Was this a training flight or a Part 138 operation? If it was a 138 op and the pilot in the left seat was doing ICUS, why would the trainer in the right seat simulate or shut down an engine with another person in the back. Might explain if it was a CASA FOI in the back.
Was this a training flight or a Part 138 operation? If it was a 138 op and the pilot in the left seat was doing ICUS, why would the trainer in the right seat simulate or shut down an engine with another person in the back. Might explain if it was a CASA FOI in the back.
All good speculation based on our individual experiences. Very healthy debate on a public forum by professionals.
We don’t know the circumstantial facts yet apart from the fact that the aeroplane crashed, for what reasons we don’t know.
We don’t know the circumstantial facts yet apart from the fact that the aeroplane crashed, for what reasons we don’t know.
You can get a full flight profile from the ADSB these days... in some cases, you could literally work out the cause of a crash before the fire is extinguished and has destroyed the evidence that remained.
Maybe you should pass that information onto the federal government in order to prevent wasting taxpayers money on having the ATSB do aviation investigations.
Pprune is an absolute GREAT source of VALUABLE INFORMATION.
I now feel absolutely belittled by posting anything on this forum, I know absolutely nothing in comparison to some of the industry experts who post on this forum, particularly with me having 35 years experience in the industry as an engineer, pilot, regulator and aviation consultant…..
I’m just saying that the landscape has changed with the technology.
Nowadays you can quickly find a potential cause and head in that direction rather than analysing the element in a halogen lightbulb in order to determine if it was illuminated at impact. You probably can’t even do that any more with these fancy new LED’s.
Nowadays you can quickly find a potential cause and head in that direction rather than analysing the element in a halogen lightbulb in order to determine if it was illuminated at impact. You probably can’t even do that any more with these fancy new LED’s.