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Old 17th Jul 2023, 12:17
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You're talking about a job where they often do get attacked during routine stops
Me thinks you’ve been watching too many American movies!
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Me thinks you’ve been watching too many American movies!
Nope, Australian news reports.
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More importantly did the Hilux pass inspection by Queensland’s finest?
Ah…no…

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After making a written request to QLD Weapons Licensing, I received a confirmation that they would consider a Leatherman to be the same as a Swiss-Army Knife, ie. permitted to be carried for its Utility purpose (as long as I “wasn’t getting into mischief” while carrying it).

Also stated was the nice Sgt’s opinion that the Traffic Branch QPS member was being an “officious arsehole”. (Exact words.)
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Old 12th Aug 2023, 06:19
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It sounds from the first two or three paragraphs of your preamble above that something about your vehicle, and then you yourself got up the policeman’s nose, so he needed something/anything to book/warn you with, and the rest was history.
Absolutely NOT. I have the utmost respect for what the police force has to do considering what they have to work with and as a licensed firearm owner, do not need to give them any reason to question whether I am a “fit and proper person” to be holding my license at my next renewal. Too many speeding tickets can be a reason to be denied in QLD. (And if I gave him a reason to really search the car, he may have found the K-Bar along with the skinning pack behind the back seat and that would’ve been enough reason to call in the Special Response Group, PolAir, have the Army on standby and lockdown the suburb for eight hours…)
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Old 12th Aug 2023, 08:58
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Well, a butcher can’t just walk down the street after work with his knives, can he?”

They sure do in my town. We have a meatworks, and lots of Taiwanese workers who walk or cycle to work, and 100%, they all carry their personal tools of trade with them in rather obvious bags. I wouldn't want to be on the chopping block with any of those guys and girls! Do they get stopped and searched? Nope.

I'm glad the police officer stopped you from carrying out a terrorist attack with your leathrman. He should receive a bravery award and keys to the city.
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Old 13th Aug 2023, 02:06
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Based on what I saw at Brissie airport during Covid common sense in lacking amongst the QLD Police.
To be fair to them, during that period common sense was lacking in the vast majority of the Australian population; almost the entire nation lost the ability to think critically so it seems a little unfair to label the cops, specifically, an industry which is often seen as dominated by dullards.
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Old 13th Aug 2023, 14:54
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Or you can declare yourself as a member of Sikh community..
https://www.police.vic.gov.au/sites/...irpan-v1.0.pdf
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Or you can declare yourself as a member of Sikh community..
https://www.police.vic.gov.au/sites/...irpan-v1.0.pdf
That’s one of those things that if the general public became aware of it, there would be a lot of unhappy people out there. It seems crazy that they allow it. I can only assume that you can’t take one on an aircraft.

I’m sure “Religious observance” will result in stabbing someone in an altercation and “usually blunted” probably means sharpened in most cases:
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You'd have to be a practicing Sikh to get away with carrying a Kirpan. That entails far more than just carrying the blade. There was a debatable incident at a school recently regarding a Kirpan, not sure the kid involved was even a Sikh. In general Sikhs have controlled their stabbing urges well enough over many years to warrant it being allowed in public. Most likely because its a highly disciplined faith with very strict moral standards. Might be a good cultural exercise for some here to learn more about them.
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Old 13th Aug 2023, 23:32
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Originally Posted by Rataxes
To be fair to them, during that period common sense was lacking in the vast majority of the Australian population; almost the entire nation lost the ability to think critically so it seems a little unfair to label the cops, specifically, an industry which is often seen as dominated by dullards.
To be even more fair to them, it wasn't them making the distinctions. They could only follow the directions of QLD Health. Now that was an organisation who's left hand didn't know what it's right was doing. And didn't care either. Because they were KEEPING US SAFE!! REMEMBER?? At least that was the usual response.
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Old 13th Aug 2023, 23:47
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Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was
To be even more fair to them, it wasn't them making the distinctions. They could only follow the directions of QLD Health. Now that was an organisation who's left hand didn't know what it's right was doing. And didn't care either. Because they were KEEPING US SAFE!! REMEMBER?? At least that was the usual response.
To be fair, to be fair, to be fair, QLD health really are not an agency that should ever have been put in direct control of the situation. They are really regulatory and advisory personnel and suddenly were told they were legally in charge of what happened during the Pandemic, of course the result will be an arse covering over-reaction. The premiers should have been making the decisions with consultation from the various agencies, instead it was quite clear they were dodging bullets by handing over the reigns to bureaucrats to take the fall later.
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Old 14th Aug 2023, 03:00
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
. Might be a good cultural exercise for some here to learn more about them.
why ? not planning on ever going to thier neck of the woods , got no interest in their culture ... no law says i have to.

if they want to come to my neck of the woods they can fit in and get with the local culture themselvs . starting with not carrying around some bs hidden knife on our streets.

don 't like it ? the airport 's that way.
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Old 14th Aug 2023, 03:42
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Never said you had to do anything, but learning about other cultures, ie educating yourself, stops you from making comments that make you look backwards and stupid on public forums. Pretty sure you wouldn't do **** if a Sikh walked into your 'neck of the woods' and would be quite polite to their face, because that's how online anonymous cowards are. Everyone around you would be telling you to head for the 'airport' if you did.

PS I'm not a Sikh, but have lived within communities where they also live, and they are fine people, as are most 'foreign' cultures if you get to know them.

As I said above you could stab someone with just about anything pointy, which is what shivs are. Knife bans are not to stop people carrying knives for legal purpose, its to enable police to remove knives from those carrying them for the purpose of harm to others.
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Old 14th Aug 2023, 05:10
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Maybe if you’d worked in law enforcement like some of us, your opinion may be quite different!

There are a lot of dodgy people out there and the average Joe blog that simply goes to and from work every day and goes out to dinner on a Saturday night will never come across them, until such time that something randomly happens.

To suggest that someone is level headed in a confrontation due to their religious beliefs/ upbringing is honestly laughable at best.
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Old 14th Aug 2023, 06:32
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
Never said you had to do anything, but learning about other cultures, ie educating yourself, stops you from making comments that make you look backwards and stupid on public forums. Pretty sure you wouldn't do **** if a Sikh walked into your 'neck of the woods' and would be quite polite to their face, because that's how online anonymous cowards are. Everyone around you would be telling you to head for the 'airport' if you did.
yes you did , you droped a big hint you reckin people “ here” are in need of education to your standard of outlook. pretty arrogant . now your backing down on that and saying that ‘ s not what you said.

why would I do a **** if a sikh walked in ?? why do you think i have a beef with sichks ? head to the airport if I did what ? a ****? what are you talking about ?


the sihks are now allowed to take their knifes into SCHOOLS because they used our own courts to overturn our own laws . Id of just pointed them to the airport as they ‘re obvioussly not happy with what they found when they came here . Im happy with aus culture and don ‘t need someone else ‘s culture on top of it including kids carrying “ ceremonnial ” daggers ie edged weapons into schools . it's a violence culture . if I wanna see that I 'll go to india

people don 't hate sichks they hate a-holes who cause waves and push there own crap where it 's not wanted .

fit in or f off …. pretty simple concept... and nothing wrong with it despite what your trying but failing to do .
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Old 14th Aug 2023, 06:45
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I think you are very short on education fella, it's like oozing out of the screen. I guess with your attitude you don't fit in in Australia anymore, so I'm asking you to leave Australia now, you are no longer welcome, your type is the minority now, off to the airport you go. Maybe that's what you are afraid of, as the new immigrants move in, they might just take your attitude up and have you deported back to the old country. I'm pretty sure you're not aboriginal, so guess you will have to get on the next boat back to old' blighty or Ireland or wherever it is your family hailed from.

Oh, I just realized that the old country is full of Sikhs and such, oh, you are not going to have a fun time... they might ask you to leave there as well.

The biggest issue with the 'fit in or f'off' brigade is that they are the ones that most struggle to fit in with the majority of people.

Maybe if you’d worked in law enforcement like some of us, your opinion may be quite different!

There are a lot of dodgy people out there and the average Joe blog that simply goes to and from work every day and goes out to dinner on a Saturday night will never come across them, until such time that something randomly happens.

To suggest that someone is level headed in a confrontation due to their religious beliefs/ upbringing is honestly laughable at best.
Not sure what you are on about there, but half my family are coppers, the other half are on the other side of the law....

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Old 17th Aug 2023, 05:25
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I recall the brouhaha after 9-11 when airline crew were losing their nail scissors at security and then finally making it to the cockpit where sat the nastiest crash axe ever made.
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Old 19th Aug 2023, 12:48
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Jesus! How many lost fingers trying to cut their nails?
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Have actually written to the QLD Police Commissioner’s office for a clarification on whether a Swiss Army Knife and Leatherman are regarded in the same light.
It needs to be a non-locking blade of less than three inches which cannot be opened by one hand. Then it will qualify.
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