Skytrans not happy about the competition
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Skytrans not happy about the competition
The riff between Skytrans and Hinterland seems to be widening. Skytrans failed to apply for approved short field landing approval for their C208 operations in the straits and subsequently were stoped by CASA from operating into the strips. Since then approval has been obtained for all the strips bar the shortest Darnley and Mabuiag.
Hinterland seems to have obtained the required approval and been granted an emergency contract by the QLD Government to conduct scheduled air transport operations into Darnley and Mabuiag Island’s.
As one can imagine the upper echelons at Skytrans are not happy about this.
The chief pilot of Skytrans was whiteness boarding one of Hinterlands services to Mabuiag disguised as a tradesperson.
Word on the street is the CP has been heard saying “we are going to get these boys grounded”.
Looks like the management at JTs airline are throwing the toys out of the cot.
Hinterland seems to have obtained the required approval and been granted an emergency contract by the QLD Government to conduct scheduled air transport operations into Darnley and Mabuiag Island’s.
As one can imagine the upper echelons at Skytrans are not happy about this.
The chief pilot of Skytrans was whiteness boarding one of Hinterlands services to Mabuiag disguised as a tradesperson.
Word on the street is the CP has been heard saying “we are going to get these boys grounded”.
Looks like the management at JTs airline are throwing the toys out of the cot.
What’s the better company to work for? Who treats the Pilots better? Does PC from Broome still own Hinterland? Many Pilots sitting in the front of big jets around the world because of that gentleman.
Seems a bit rich to whinge about the competition when it was your organisation that made the error.
Seems a bit rich to whinge about the competition when it was your organisation that made the error.
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I know of a few people at each place definitely seems as far as the 208 Ops goes Hinterland has better pay and conditions.
What’s the better company to work for? Who treats the Pilots better? Does PC from Broome still own Hinterland? Many Pilots sitting in the front of big jets around the world because of that gentleman.
Seems a bit rich to whinge about the competition when it was your organisation that made the error.
Seems a bit rich to whinge about the competition when it was your organisation that made the error.
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Only heard good things about working for PC and Hinterland.
Can’t comment about working for Skytrans but if they had their head in the sand about the new Part135 requirement I’m sure it says a lot about how it is being managed currently. Maybe the CP should keep his dress ups and take on being a tradie instead 😂.
Can’t comment about working for Skytrans but if they had their head in the sand about the new Part135 requirement I’m sure it says a lot about how it is being managed currently. Maybe the CP should keep his dress ups and take on being a tradie instead 😂.
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Skytrans apparently thinks it's necessary to dress up in disguises and resort to questionable measures. Seriously? How sad.
I have been following the Torres Strait story in the cairns post. There was a lot of finger pointing towards Casa and others in the news articles, meanwhile apparently Hinterland already had the approvals since last year!
competition is healthy and should be based on merit Perhaps it's time for Skytrans to focus on their own internal issues and address the root causes of their setbacks, rather than trying to shift blame onto others. After all, pointing fingers and engaging in covert operations won't get their planes off the ground or fix their management woes.
I have been following the Torres Strait story in the cairns post. There was a lot of finger pointing towards Casa and others in the news articles, meanwhile apparently Hinterland already had the approvals since last year!
competition is healthy and should be based on merit Perhaps it's time for Skytrans to focus on their own internal issues and address the root causes of their setbacks, rather than trying to shift blame onto others. After all, pointing fingers and engaging in covert operations won't get their planes off the ground or fix their management woes.
Celebrity part owners do not guarantee success. The success of a company relies upon the staff and CASA compliance. If Head of flight Ops, Quality assurance, and the CEO/GM have dropped the ball; then failure results.
CASA's concern about operating into remote or shorter than normal airstrips is justified if the aircraft are operating outside the AFM performance charts. Likewise if the airstrips do not meet current regulations for RPT/CHT ops. (I'm NOT suggesting Skytrans are operating illegally)
The issue is poor leadership from management and Chief Pilot; the concerns are not new; it is an issue that been on the table for a fair while. Forget public media, the public has little or no idea about aircraft performance. It may also be suggested that the Underwriter has also dropped the ball and has not been conducting annual audits.
When a company's problems are aired in the public domain; it takes a long time to address any shortcomings.
CASA's concern about operating into remote or shorter than normal airstrips is justified if the aircraft are operating outside the AFM performance charts. Likewise if the airstrips do not meet current regulations for RPT/CHT ops. (I'm NOT suggesting Skytrans are operating illegally)
The issue is poor leadership from management and Chief Pilot; the concerns are not new; it is an issue that been on the table for a fair while. Forget public media, the public has little or no idea about aircraft performance. It may also be suggested that the Underwriter has also dropped the ball and has not been conducting annual audits.
When a company's problems are aired in the public domain; it takes a long time to address any shortcomings.
From an ex Skytrans t&c: Skytrans flight ops manager went up to mabuiag to install a webcam so they can determine wet/dry runway, as wet runway is not possible on that length. He also said Hinterland appear to be ignoring the 135mos and the C208 POH re 50ft crossing height and landing on the keys or close to.
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From an ex Skytrans t&c: Skytrans flight ops manager went up to mabuiag to install a webcam so they can determine wet/dry runway, as wet runway is not possible on that length. He also said Hinterland appear to be ignoring the 135mos and the C208 POH re 50ft crossing height and landing on the keys or close to.
Skytrans flight ops manager went up to mabuiag to install a webcam so they can determine wet/dry runway
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From an ex Skytrans t&c: Skytrans flight ops manager went up to mabuiag to install a webcam so they can determine wet/dry runway, as wet runway is not possible on that length. He also said Hinterland appear to be ignoring the 135mos and the C208 POH re 50ft crossing height and landing on the keys or close to.
. Sounds like Hinterland setting their guys up for failure…From an ex Skytrans t&c: Skytrans flight ops manager went up to mabuiag to install a webcam so they can determine wet/dry runway, as wet runway is not possible on that length. He also said Hinterland appear to be ignoring the 135mos and the C208 POH re 50ft crossing height and landing on the keys or close to.
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A bush pilot attempting the same stunt on a really short strip would quickly be unemployed.
It's not a bloody Boeing landing at Brisbane FFS.
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Those Blackhawk converted C208s look quite capable.
Maybe the issue is Skytrans never really read the Regs in the first place, hence the reason they got in trouble for not being compliant 12 month after Part 135 came in.
Maybe the issue is Skytrans never really read the Regs in the first place, hence the reason they got in trouble for not being compliant 12 month after Part 135 came in.
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My thoughts exactly. A test pilot flying an exact airspeed, crossing the threshold at exactly 50 feet, slamming it on the ground and applying maximum braking gets the numbers into the AFM.
A bush pilot attempting the same stunt on a really short strip would quickly be unemployed.
It's not a bloody Boeing landing at Brisbane FFS.
A bush pilot attempting the same stunt on a really short strip would quickly be unemployed.
It's not a bloody Boeing landing at Brisbane FFS.
Probably something that you’d want to run by the punters in the back, wouldn’t you say?
Plenty of exemptions and approvals getting around the traps for interesting things that are completely safe and compliant.