Aircraft down off Redcliffe
I’ll take water over heavily built up suburbia like most former GAAP airports - “aim for that one footy oval” isn’t ideal
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
At least add another 80-100 kg.
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Originally Posted by PA39
Stall spin after EFATO due to engine component failure or fuel exhaustion would be my initial thoughts.
Not what you'd expect from a controlled ditching. Tragic at any time of year,- but less than a week out from Xmas, just devastating.
Originally Posted by PA39
i wd agree with the cantilever undercarriage I wd go for a 112 ir 114
A cantilever is fixed only at one end with the keyword being "fixed" not pivoting.
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lots of theories so far but your comment 'land ahead' (or close to straight ahead) is so valid and usually gives the best outcome. It was always drummed into me. EFATO - then land ahead if possible.
But who knows, it may have been a partial engine failure initially with a chance of returning to airfield.
But who knows, it may have been a partial engine failure initially with a chance of returning to airfield.
Last edited by grunaubaby; 22nd Dec 2021 at 22:09.
Originally Posted by Checklist Charlie
I wonder if PA39 means fuel starvation?
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No fellas I mean fuel exhaustion……ran out of fuel. 114 have a common left both right or off selector. The 114 is known to cross drain and sometimes pilots switch tanks as one wing is considerably lower after the cross drain making the ground roll awkward. Jimmy Hazelton and I shared similar experiences when we were working on configurations to make the “unuseable” fuel useable. When the nose points to the heavens and a turn is commenced, the fuel port can be uncovered on a “skinny” tank. Anyway enough said, lets wait see
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Originally Posted by Checklist Charlie
Just for clarity
No fuel in tanks except "unusable" equals exhaustion.
Fuel in excess of "unusable" but the flow to the engine is interrupted equals starvation.
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No fuel in tanks except "unusable" equals exhaustion.
Fuel in excess of "unusable" but the flow to the engine is interrupted equals starvation.
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Originally Posted by PA39
No fellas I mean fuel exhaustion……ran out of fuel. 114 have a common left both right or off selector. The 114 is known to cross drain and sometimes pilots switch tanks as one wing is considerably lower after the cross drain making the ground roll awkward. Jimmy Hazelton and I shared similar experiences when we were working on configurations to make the “unuseable” fuel useable. When the nose points to the heavens and a turn is commenced, the fuel port can be uncovered on a “skinny” tank. Anyway enough said, lets wait see
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Do you recall what the Kiwi registration was?
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Originally Posted by Kooka
As it happens Jim Hazelton and I ferried this particular 114 from NZ some years ago.
miss JH terribly, in fact when Jimmy passed I left aviation forever. 😔
Preliminary Report is out.
What strikes me from it is they ditched with gear extended, and predictably flipped in shallow water, but first responders couldn't get into the aircraft. Makes a reasonable point to pop the cabin doors before you put her down off airport, though in this case there probably wasn't enough time to brief the RHS passenger to do so.
What strikes me from it is they ditched with gear extended, and predictably flipped in shallow water, but first responders couldn't get into the aircraft. Makes a reasonable point to pop the cabin doors before you put her down off airport, though in this case there probably wasn't enough time to brief the RHS passenger to do so.
