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trashie 19th Dec 2021 00:08

Aircraft down off Redcliffe
 
Aircraft in water near Newport QLD looks like it crashed after take off from Redcliffe. Reported that four were on board. Does not look good.

Just a Grunt 19th Dec 2021 00:27

Non-paywall link to courier-mail:

https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https:/...16e1964204c231

KyleJR 19th Dec 2021 00:44

Not good
 
Certainly doesn’t sound good.

ABC running an article too.
can’t post the link though.

Slatye 19th Dec 2021 00:47

It's unclear whether there's any evidence that there were four people onboard, or whether it's just "it has four seats and therefore there could have been four people onboard". Hopefully the latter.

I am no expert on aircraft types, but that wing shape makes me think Comanche?

Andy_G 19th Dec 2021 01:12

Must have been extremely short on time during the emergency, landing gear still extended for a ditching was more than likely not thier intentions.

PoppaJo 19th Dec 2021 01:15

Looks like a Rockwell Commander.

Single engine.

PA39 19th Dec 2021 01:26

Redcliffe
 
i wd agree with the cantilever undercarriage I wd go for a 112 ir 114

Mick.B 19th Dec 2021 01:49

Looks a lot like WMM.

OZBUSDRIVER 19th Dec 2021 01:55

Will not have to wait for the divers, another 3 hours it will be sitting on mudflat

PoppaJo 19th Dec 2021 01:55


Originally Posted by Mick.B (Post 11158050)
Looks a lot like WMM.

Nine News footage just confirmed that. Seems to be elevated above water slowly as the arvo progresses.

marty1468 19th Dec 2021 01:56

Four confirmed deceased
 
7 NEWS is reporting four confirmed deceased. 2 from Brisbane and 2 from Canberra. Witnesses stated the aircraft appeared to be having engine trouble and they looked like they attempted to turn around and make it back to the runway.

mickjoebill 19th Dec 2021 03:02

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-...e=abc_news_web



Lead Balloon 19th Dec 2021 03:09

Can’t find WMM on the register. (head scratch)

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....80be5513ea.png
…and then I searched for the rego of the aircraft I fly, and it does not show either. Must be my fat thumbs or CASA’s ‘upgraded’ website.

Greeb 19th Dec 2021 03:36

Leave the VH- off and it will work.

Lead Balloon 19th Dec 2021 03:48

Would you believe the ‘VH-‘ is pre-populated?

I should have realised…

(PS: thanks greeb)

PA39 19th Dec 2021 04:51

I have around 1800hrs in the 114 and can say with the gear out they glide like a brick. Sad sad situation, the return to land after EFATO has trapped many an aviator.

Hydromet 19th Dec 2021 07:16

ABC reporting 59 yo male pilot, another male and two children all deceased.

lucille 19th Dec 2021 08:04

Looking at the images, the aircraft is inverted in the water, either floating or it’s in really shallow water. Makes you wonder why it flipped.

Sad outcome.

runway16 19th Dec 2021 08:43

Redcliffe Ditching
 
It was a retract. It look like a gear-down landing in shallow water. The engine appears torn off and the tail dislodged after it flipped.
Upside down would make it hard to exit. If a retract and ditching it is best to land gear up and open the doors before touch down.

Bad news so close to Christmas.

Alice Kiwican 19th Dec 2021 09:00


Originally Posted by runway16 (Post 11158125)
It was a retract. It look like a gear-down landing in shallow water. The engine appears torn off and the tail dislodged after it flipped.
Upside down would make it hard to exit. If a retract and ditching it is best to land gear up and open the doors before touch down.

Bad news so close to Christmas.

Maybe no time to retract? May have been fixated on returning to airfield and not ditching? Sadly we will probably never know.

Sad day for the families. RIP


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