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[tossbag]

The Age is reporting that only around 10% of the approximately 1000 students got their CPL.

​​​​​​​Horse****, less than 10%

[Clare Prop]

Originally Posted by Sunfish

ymmb is still off limits since it’s class D airspace. No entry without a PPL and medical and a factory built aircraft. There is nothing about reduced charges on their website. I can’t wait for it to be redeveloped, then the NIMBYs can complain about traffic, parking, crime and pollution. The developers are just the usual sharks and should be treated as such. A plague on the lot of them.

Plenty of RAAus aircraft operate at Jandakot, including for flying training.
Squawk, not sure why they should be exempted from landing fees, why should GA/ratepayers be subsidising them?

[Squawk7700]

Originally Posted by Clare Prop

Plenty of RAAus aircraft operate at Jandakot, including for flying training.
Squawk, not sure why they should be exempted from landing fees, why should GA/ratepayers be subsidising them?

RAAus are not exempt from landing fees. Their register is available to airport operators, just not the general public.

[Egipps]

Originally Posted by Sunfish

ymmb is still off limits since it’s class D airspace. No entry without a PPL and medical and a factory built aircraft. There is nothing about reduced charges on their website. I can’t wait for it to be redeveloped, then the NIMBYs can complain about traffic, parking, crime and pollution. The developers are just the usual sharks and should be treated as such. A plague on the lot of them.

Seriously this is incorrect. Experimental, homebuilt VH registered aircraft are definitely allowed into YMMB. Quite a few are kept there. RPL's are okay, and probably RPC but I'm not sure what the deal is for RAAus aircraft. Soar used to have a mix of VH and RAAus aircraft they taught with, and Oasis teaches in RAAus registered Jabiru's out of Moorabbin, so it definitely isn't a blanket ban.

[Stikman]

Egipps, RAAus training may be conducted from YMMB if the flying school has an exemption either from CAsA or RAAus (can't remember who..). The exemption is renewed anually.
RPC holders cannot operate from YMMB unless they have a CAsA licence as well.

[Sunfish]

It’s not just a ‘CASA Licence”, I’ve got that. It’s the class 2 medical (min $250) and the BFR (min $600 with aircraft hire). It’s poor value for money when you are only an occasional user of controlled airspace and want to drop in to YMEN or YMMB. It’s also a major PITA when touring.

I may be wrong, but I don’t believe other countries have to put up with this BS.

[PiperCameron]

Originally Posted by Sunfish

It’s not just a ‘CASA Licence”, I’ve got that. It’s the class 2 medical (min $250) and the BFR (min $600 with aircraft hire). It’s poor value for money when you are only an occasional user of controlled airspace and want to drop in to YMEN or YMMB. It’s also a major PITA when touring.

I may be wrong, but I don’t believe other countries have to put up with this BS.

If not, it's only because they have a single regulatory body responsible for all classes of aviation in their country. We used to.. once upon a time. Now anyone with an RPC is merely a pawn in the never-ceasing pointless battle between RAAus and our not-beloved CA"Safety"A.

[Squawk7700]

Originally Posted by PiperCameron

Now anyone with an RPC is merely a pawn in the never-ceasing pointless battle between RAAus and our not-beloved CA"Safety"A.

If you believe that, you are horribly mistaken.

Raaus work with CASA in a partnership, not as adversary’s.

[PiperCameron]

Originally Posted by Squawk7700

If you believe that, you are horribly mistaken.

Raaus work with CASA in a partnership, not as adversary’s.

If by your definition of a "partnership" it's okay to fight every so often, then you're right - perhaps I'm being a bit harsh. I guess I'm more used to partnerships that are constructive and where both partners look out for each others interests.

BTW, it's soo much more peaceful in the YMMB circuit without those pesky Foxbats. If only the Oxford Cessnas would keep their circuits within the 3 mile limit, it would be pure bliss!!

[john_tullamarine]

circuits within the 3 mile limit, it would be pure bliss!!

Reminds me, years ago. Did some work for Ralph Capponi (thoroughly top chap with a fascinating history) at Essendon and cut out the charges in a session of circuits in his 685. Lovely bird and, with no weight on board, went like the proverbial cut cat. Ralph in the RHS so I didn't kill myself or cook his engines which had all conceivable lines of instrumentation gadgetry. I don't think we went outside the aerodrome boundary fence line on any circuit - Ralph couldn't see the runway except on final. As for singles, never did like being further out than suitable for an engine failure and glide approach ....