Rejected Take-Off and Flight Time
Man Bilong Balus long PNG
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Now officially on Life's scrap heap, now being an Age Pensioner and not liking it one little bit! I'd rather be flying but in the meantime still continuing the never ending search for a bad bottle of Red!
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Just to digress a little! I am a possible descendant of a convict being a Tasmanian👍👍👍👍👍 Maybe 4th or 5th generation?
I mean, you know what they say about the 'criminal type.' All tarred with the same brush etc etc. And you're a Tasmanian an' all!
Possible inbreeding maybe.... No.... definitely not to be trusted.... But the worst bit....You were/are a PNG bush pilot! Aren't they (we) all death defying cowboys????
Of course there's yours truly. 5th generation Aussie from fine Germanic stock. Father's side from Prussia (Great Grandfather was just over 6 foot, blonde haired and blue eyed.
) and Mother's side from Silesia. 'Goosesteppers' the lot of them!
Right, now that we have exhausted all stereotypes.....
Clarifier; The above piss-take is posted with Duck Pilot's express permission. He has approved every word.
Join Date: Sep 2003
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If you had an accident and damaged the plane do you think the authorities would say it doesn’t count because you never got airborne? 10 minutes taxi time is not worth arguing about but I agree with those that say log it
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Great South East, tired and retired
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If you got airborne but then crashed into water, do you log anything? There was no landing.
If you are that desperate to log the time for the aborted takeoff, get a separate logbook to put all your pretend hours in.
If you are that desperate to log the time for the aborted takeoff, get a separate logbook to put all your pretend hours in.
Join Date: Jun 2001
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie
If you got airborne but then crashed into water, do you log anything? There was no landing.
What if you ‘crashed’ three hours after take off?
How far do you want to take the ‘no landing’ business as an argument for not logging time?
Join Date: Sep 2018
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Quite a few times over the years I've not actually gotten airborne, issues during run ups in piston planes, cancelled flight/s. Returned to gate due a no-go ECAM etc, NONE where logged as that's not in the spirit of what a pilots log book is for, no flight was completed
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How far do you want to take the ‘no landing’ business as an argument for not logging time?
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie
OK, to be less subtle, LANDing is different from crashing into WATER. No LAND involved. And the book says nothing about watering, just landing.
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by captaincorrigan
Hi all,
I recently rejected a take-off prior to rotation in a C172 as PIC due to abnormal engine RPM and taxied back to parking. After performing a static full power check with an instructor, it was confirmed that it was below the POH specified take-off RPM range.
I recently rejected a take-off prior to rotation in a C172 as PIC due to abnormal engine RPM and taxied back to parking. After performing a static full power check with an instructor, it was confirmed that it was below the POH specified take-off RPM range.
Well done, btw...👍
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I wonder how casa would define the transition between atmospheric and space flight, how it’d be logged and who would be responsible for the regulatory oversight.
So the next topic.
logging IF time.
See ya.
So the next topic.
logging IF time.
See ya.
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Location: Ex-pat Aussie in the UK
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I’m just glad to see there are schools out there who are teaching static rpm these days. I come across so many pilots who aren’t aware of this parameter in a fixed pitch prop or what over/under speed of this means.
Even today in the airbus, when I hit take off power I personally run down the engine guages at the start of the take off roll ... Eight, Six, Nine, Three. (and matching left/right needles).
80-something% N1, Six hundred somethingºC EGT, 90-something% N2, and 3 thousand something fuel flow. That's a personal thing, a "reasonable-ness" check not a company SOP, and if it isn't 8-6-9-3 then it's enough to trigger me to wonder why (i.e. sometimes it's 90-something% and 7 hundred somethingºC on a heavy take-off).
I notice in Low-Thrust / mis-set thrust accidents and incidents, very rarely is there recognition of the low thrust, or a trigger to do something about it. For Example: Air Florida Flight 90 (Winter Potomac river crash)
15:59:32 CAM-1 Okay, your throttles.
15:59:35 [SOUND OF ENGINE SPOOLUP]
15:59:49 CAM-1 Holler if you need the wipers.
15:59:51 CAM-1 It's spooled. Really cold here, real cold.
15:59:58 CAM-2 God, look at that thing. That don't seem right, does it? Ah, that's not right. [Presumably a comment on the thrust setting]
16:00:09 CAM-1 Yes it is, there's eighty.
16:00:10 CAM-2 Naw, I don't think that's right. Ah, maybe it is.
16:00:21 CAM-1 Hundred and twenty.
16:00:23 CAM-2 I don't know.
16:00:31 CAM-1 V1. Easy, V2.— Transcript, Air Florida Flight 90 Cockpit Voice Recorder
15:59:35 [SOUND OF ENGINE SPOOLUP]
15:59:49 CAM-1 Holler if you need the wipers.
15:59:51 CAM-1 It's spooled. Really cold here, real cold.
15:59:58 CAM-2 God, look at that thing. That don't seem right, does it? Ah, that's not right. [Presumably a comment on the thrust setting]
16:00:09 CAM-1 Yes it is, there's eighty.
16:00:10 CAM-2 Naw, I don't think that's right. Ah, maybe it is.
16:00:21 CAM-1 Hundred and twenty.
16:00:23 CAM-2 I don't know.
16:00:31 CAM-1 V1. Easy, V2.— Transcript, Air Florida Flight 90 Cockpit Voice Recorder
