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One down in PNG today - C402C, VH-TSI

Old 17th Aug 2020, 06:29
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Originally Posted by Petropavlovsk View Post
Wawa, have you bothered to look at any of the photo's.
Only photo’s I’ve seen the left wing outboard of the engine is burnt out. How can anyone tell how much of the wing was missing prior to take off from those photos?
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 07:00
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Originally Posted by Petropavlovsk View Post
Wawa, have you bothered to look at any of the photo's.
It’s hard to tell whether it was the first or second brush with the trees which caused the damage in the photos.

You can’t blame the pilot for trying to take off with the damage... at that stage, he was between a rock and a hard place. What else could he do? Wait for a LAME to come fix it?
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 07:30
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From memory it is about 18 inch or 2 foot of outboard wing until the aileron - a fair bit more than a fairing holding the strobes (like the PA-31).
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 09:48
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Originally Posted by Petropavlovsk View Post
Wawa, have you bothered to look at any of the photo's.
Yeah, you mean this one ? The wings measure up the same when you zoom in, so it would be a bit of tip fairing at the most. If that had been knocked off, I wonder if it had his prints on it from the prefight, and would have been good evidence if he had managed to get it out.

Incidentally, in that pic, can you see the black plastic wrapped box of drugs that must have got left laying in the bushes in the panic and confusion to unload the thing after the prang ?


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Old 17th Aug 2020, 09:57
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Originally Posted by The Wawa Zone View Post
Yeah, you mean this one ? The wings measure up the same when you zoom in, so it would be a bit of tip fairing at the most. If that had been knocked off, I wonder if it had his prints on it from the prefight, and would have been good evidence if he had managed to get it out.

Incidentally, in that pic, can you see the black plastic wrapped box of drugs that must have got left laying in the bushes in the panic and confusion to unload the thing after the prang ?


My mistake hadn’t seen that photo before not as much burnt as I thought
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 13:08
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Any pix of any flap out at the arrival site?

No flap would be a take off, flap out would be a landing.
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 13:18
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Further Official update information

Cessna 402C collided with trees during aborted take-off at a non-certified field near Papa Lealea, about 16nm North – West of Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea
Occurrence details
On 26 July 2020, at 12:46 local time (02:46 UTC1), a Cessna 402C aircraft, registered VH-TSI, impacted trees during an aborted take-off at an uncommissioned field near Papa – Lealea, about 16nm North-West of Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea.
Figure 1: Depiction of accident location in relation to Jackson’s airport, Port Moresby
At about 09:30 that day, the aircraft departed Mareeba, Queensland, Australia and tracked towards the North North-East with a track set slightly left of Jacksons International Airport. The pilot reported that he had flown to and within Papua New Guinea in the past and was familiar with the area and airspace. He confirmed that after departure, he switched off the transponder2.
The pilot reported that as soon as the aircraft neared the Southern shoreline (within the Caution Bay area), he diverted left and began tracking towards the North West (see Figure 2) along the coast to avoid flying over villages in the area. The aircraft subsequently crossed over land before turning back to approach the intended landing field.
The pilot stated that as he approached to land from the North, the outboard section of the left wing was clipped by a tree and separated from the aircraft and he managed to continue with the approach and touched down on the field at about 12:20.
The pilot stated that the aircraft was refuelled with aviation gasoline (AvGas) using jerrycans full of fuel and loaded with cargo by persons waiting on the ground.
According to the pilot, the field offered enough distance for take-off and at about 12:40, he commenced his take-
1 The 24-hour clock, in Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), is used in this report to describe the local time as specific events occurred. Local time in the area of the accident, Pacific/Port Moresby Time is UTC + 10 hours.
2 Radio device which when triggered by correct received signal sends out precoded reply on same (rarely different) wavelength (Source: Cambridge Aerospace dictionary)
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off roll from the Southern end of the field. However, as the aircraft took off, he noticed that the airspeed indicator was not working and that the aircraft couldn’t achieve a positive rate of climb. The pilot subsequently closed the throttles and aborted the take off. The aircraft touched down about 850 m into the field, colliding with trees during its landing roll.
The pilot reported he was the sole occupant of the aircraft, and sustained minor injuries.
The aircraft was substantially damaged.
Figure 2: VH-TSI track towards the field using for landing and take-off.
AIC comment
The investigation is continuing and will include operational, technical, environmental and human aspects as appropriate to determine the circumstances and causes of the occurrence with a view to avoid similar occurrences in the future, rather to ascribe blame to any person, with complete independence from any judicial, police or administrative investigation that can be conducted for purposes other than safety.
The investigation analysis and findings will be included in the Final Report.
Safety Actions
At the time of the issue of this Preliminary report, no safety actions had been taken.
Recommendations
At the time of the issue of this Preliminary report, no recommendations had been made by the AIC.
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General Details
Date and time:
26th July 2020, 12:46 Local time (02:46 UTC)
Occurrence category:
Accident
ICAO occurrence category:
Collision with obstacle during take-off or landing (CTOL)
Location:
16 nm north west of Port Moresby, PNG
Latitude: 9°14ʹ49.78ʺS
Longitude: 147°0ʹ57.84ʺE
Pilot details
Nationality:
Australian
Licence type:
NA
Total hours:
NA
Total hours in Command:
NA
Total hours on type:
NA
Aircraft Details
Aircraft manufacturer and model:
Cessna 402C
Registration:
VH-TSI
Serial number:
402C0492
Type of operation, injury and damage details
Type of operation:
Take-off from an uncommissioned field.
Persons on board:
Crew: 1 (Pilot)
Passengers: Nil
Injuries:
Crew: Minor
Passengers: Nil
Damage
Substantially damaged.
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 02:06
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ex ABC News: Boat with alleged $250m of cocaine intercepted off NSW .........

Apologies for the 'drift', but same Cargo- different method.

Link here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-...-boat/12568230

All GO on this Cocaine gig...., apparently.
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 07:56
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If we work on the basis that it is a couple of hundred of kilos up to one tonne then the street value is between $100 million and $250 million

The C402 bust must have pushed the price up!
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 08:44
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Originally Posted by Bend alot View Post
If we work on the basis that it is a couple of hundred of kilos up to one tonne then the street value is between $100 million and $250 million

The C402 bust must have pushed the price up!
Yes- Very, Good Point..........!!!!!

Strange times- and then, what washes out??
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 12:12
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Who gives a toss if old mate screwed up and banged up a wing and all the rest of it! Absolutely no Safety outcomes will attributed to aviation safety with regards to the AIC’s report....

Aviation Safety and pure Greed don’t sync...

We don’t need these rubbish people in our industry, lock them up and throw the keys away and let them die in custody!
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 12:48
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Agreed Duck!
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 22:07
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Can't fault that logic!
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 11:52
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A report in the PNG Post Courier advises the "drugs" are in safe keeping and maybe flown to Australia for evidence.
I imagine the pilot has shed a few kilo's by now, he looked a little plump on TV, a few weeks in Bomana will change that!
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 08:46
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Originally Posted by Mumbai Merlin View Post
. .. the "drugs" are in safe keeping and maybe flown to Australia for evidence.
In safe keeping ? Do you mean the three boxes totalling 30 kilos, those drugs ??
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 10:41
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Originally Posted by Mumbai Merlin View Post
I imagine the pilot has shed a few kilo's by now, he looked a little plump on TV, a few weeks in Bomana will change that!
Our gin and tonic swilling embassy staff probably already have him sequestered somewhere safe. Human rights and all that nonsense so near and dear to DFATs hearts will prevail.
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 07:57
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9th Sept. PNG Post Courier

Three men allegedly involved in the K160 million drug bust outside Port Moresby on July 26 have pleaded not guilty to the charges of aiding and abetting and conveying smuggled goods.
Waigani Court Magistrate Dessie Kaputin Magaru adjourned their cases to Oct 15.
Dominic Telauki Terupa, 34, of Mortlock in Autonomous Region of Bougainville, Morgan Mogu, 35 of Abau in Central and Shane Dikana, 31, from Lealea village in Kairuku/Hiri, Central are remanded at the Bomana Correctional Service.
The two foreigners also allegedly involved in the drug bust also had their cases adjourned.
Australian aircraft pilot David John Cutmore’s case was adjourned to Sept 24, after lawyer Agnes Peter requested for a two weeks adjournment because she was attending to another case at the National court.
He is staying at the Bomana refugee detention centre.

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Old 9th Sep 2020, 22:28
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Oh dear. I know the family of the last named. Decent people.
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 23:21
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I can think of easier ways to get hold of a Playstation.
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Old 17th Sep 2020, 06:25
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Mother ship NIP

Trying to find the media source, but I think a vessel connected with the LHI and Newcastle drug haul, possibly the “muvver ship”and Police had a “shots fired exchange” incident around New Ireland several weeks ago.
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