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One down in PNG today - C402C, VH-TSI

Old 15th Aug 2020, 11:53
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Originally Posted by Rodney Rotorslap
So they refuelled and loaded an aeroplane that had lost part of a wing during the preceding landing?
Not only BUT-

ďThe pilot also stated that the field offered enough distance for take-off and at about 12:40, he commenced his take-off roll from the Southern end of the field. However, as the aircraft took off, he noticed that the airspeed indicator was not working and that the aircraft could not achieve a positive rate of climb. The pilot subsequently aborted the take-off and the aircraft touched down about 850 m into the field, colliding with trees during its landing roll.

Then a stop in what looks like 50 meters!

So no ASI prior to take off - that is clear early on with much time to stop.

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Old 15th Aug 2020, 13:18
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Originally Posted by Bend alot
So no ASI prior to take off - that is clear early on with much time to stop.
Do you think you can actually trust his recollection of the incident?
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Old 15th Aug 2020, 13:45
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Originally Posted by Mumbai Merlin
...received an Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT) distress signal and provided the ELT distress coordinates to AIC
The ELT went off and let everyone know exactly where they were! Amateur hour!!!
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Old 16th Aug 2020, 13:31
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Originally Posted by Rodney Rotorslap
So they refuelled and loaded an aeroplane that had lost part of a wing during the preceding landing?
Most likely he only lost the fibreglass wingtip fairing that holds the nav light. Any more and the aileron would have gone and he would have done some nice aerobatics on short final.
Still, one more act in this circus.

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Old 16th Aug 2020, 22:51
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Wawa, have you bothered to look at any of the photo's.
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 07:29
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Originally Posted by Petropavlovsk
Wawa, have you bothered to look at any of the photo's.
Only photoís Iíve seen the left wing outboard of the engine is burnt out. How can anyone tell how much of the wing was missing prior to take off from those photos?
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 08:00
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Originally Posted by Petropavlovsk
Wawa, have you bothered to look at any of the photo's.
Itís hard to tell whether it was the first or second brush with the trees which caused the damage in the photos.

You canít blame the pilot for trying to take off with the damage... at that stage, he was between a rock and a hard place. What else could he do? Wait for a LAME to come fix it?
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From memory it is about 18 inch or 2 foot of outboard wing until the aileron - a fair bit more than a fairing holding the strobes (like the PA-31).
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Originally Posted by Petropavlovsk
Wawa, have you bothered to look at any of the photo's.
Yeah, you mean this one ? The wings measure up the same when you zoom in, so it would be a bit of tip fairing at the most. If that had been knocked off, I wonder if it had his prints on it from the prefight, and would have been good evidence if he had managed to get it out.

Incidentally, in that pic, can you see the black plastic wrapped box of drugs that must have got left laying in the bushes in the panic and confusion to unload the thing after the prang ?


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Originally Posted by The Wawa Zone
Yeah, you mean this one ? The wings measure up the same when you zoom in, so it would be a bit of tip fairing at the most. If that had been knocked off, I wonder if it had his prints on it from the prefight, and would have been good evidence if he had managed to get it out.

Incidentally, in that pic, can you see the black plastic wrapped box of drugs that must have got left laying in the bushes in the panic and confusion to unload the thing after the prang ?


My mistake hadnít seen that photo before not as much burnt as I thought
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 14:08
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Any pix of any flap out at the arrival site?

No flap would be a take off, flap out would be a landing.
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 14:18
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Further Official update information

Cessna 402C collided with trees during aborted take-off at a non-certified field near Papa Lealea, about 16nm North – West of Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea
Occurrence details
On 26 July 2020, at 12:46 local time (02:46 UTC1), a Cessna 402C aircraft, registered VH-TSI, impacted trees during an aborted take-off at an uncommissioned field near Papa – Lealea, about 16nm North-West of Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea.
Figure 1: Depiction of accident location in relation to Jackson’s airport, Port Moresby
At about 09:30 that day, the aircraft departed Mareeba, Queensland, Australia and tracked towards the North North-East with a track set slightly left of Jacksons International Airport. The pilot reported that he had flown to and within Papua New Guinea in the past and was familiar with the area and airspace. He confirmed that after departure, he switched off the transponder2.
The pilot reported that as soon as the aircraft neared the Southern shoreline (within the Caution Bay area), he diverted left and began tracking towards the North West (see Figure 2) along the coast to avoid flying over villages in the area. The aircraft subsequently crossed over land before turning back to approach the intended landing field.
The pilot stated that as he approached to land from the North, the outboard section of the left wing was clipped by a tree and separated from the aircraft and he managed to continue with the approach and touched down on the field at about 12:20.
The pilot stated that the aircraft was refuelled with aviation gasoline (AvGas) using jerrycans full of fuel and loaded with cargo by persons waiting on the ground.
According to the pilot, the field offered enough distance for take-off and at about 12:40, he commenced his take-
1 The 24-hour clock, in Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), is used in this report to describe the local time as specific events occurred. Local time in the area of the accident, Pacific/Port Moresby Time is UTC + 10 hours.
2 Radio device which when triggered by correct received signal sends out precoded reply on same (rarely different) wavelength (Source: Cambridge Aerospace dictionary)
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off roll from the Southern end of the field. However, as the aircraft took off, he noticed that the airspeed indicator was not working and that the aircraft couldn’t achieve a positive rate of climb. The pilot subsequently closed the throttles and aborted the take off. The aircraft touched down about 850 m into the field, colliding with trees during its landing roll.
The pilot reported he was the sole occupant of the aircraft, and sustained minor injuries.
The aircraft was substantially damaged.
Figure 2: VH-TSI track towards the field using for landing and take-off.
AIC comment
The investigation is continuing and will include operational, technical, environmental and human aspects as appropriate to determine the circumstances and causes of the occurrence with a view to avoid similar occurrences in the future, rather to ascribe blame to any person, with complete independence from any judicial, police or administrative investigation that can be conducted for purposes other than safety.
The investigation analysis and findings will be included in the Final Report.
Safety Actions
At the time of the issue of this Preliminary report, no safety actions had been taken.
Recommendations
At the time of the issue of this Preliminary report, no recommendations had been made by the AIC.
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General Details
Date and time:
26th July 2020, 12:46 Local time (02:46 UTC)
Occurrence category:
Accident
ICAO occurrence category:
Collision with obstacle during take-off or landing (CTOL)
Location:
16 nm north west of Port Moresby, PNG
Latitude: 9į14ʹ49.78ʺS
Longitude: 147į0ʹ57.84ʺE
Pilot details
Nationality:
Australian
Licence type:
NA
Total hours:
NA
Total hours in Command:
NA
Total hours on type:
NA
Aircraft Details
Aircraft manufacturer and model:
Cessna 402C
Registration:
VH-TSI
Serial number:
402C0492
Type of operation, injury and damage details
Type of operation:
Take-off from an uncommissioned field.
Persons on board:
Crew: 1 (Pilot)
Passengers: Nil
Injuries:
Crew: Minor
Passengers: Nil
Damage
Substantially damaged.
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 03:06
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ex ABC News: Boat with alleged $250m of cocaine intercepted off NSW .........

Apologies for the 'drift', but same Cargo- different method.

Link here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-...-boat/12568230

All GO on this Cocaine gig...., apparently.
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 08:56
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If we work on the basis that it is a couple of hundred of kilos up to one tonne then the street value is between $100 million and $250 million

The C402 bust must have pushed the price up!
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Originally Posted by Bend alot
If we work on the basis that it is a couple of hundred of kilos up to one tonne then the street value is between $100 million and $250 million

The C402 bust must have pushed the price up!
Yes- Very, Good Point..........!!!!!

Strange times- and then, what washes out??
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 13:12
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Who gives a toss if old mate screwed up and banged up a wing and all the rest of it! Absolutely no Safety outcomes will attributed to aviation safety with regards to the AICís report....

Aviation Safety and pure Greed donít sync...

We donít need these rubbish people in our industry, lock them up and throw the keys away and let them die in custody!
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Agreed Duck!
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 23:07
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Can't fault that logic!
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 12:52
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A report in the PNG Post Courier advises the "drugs" are in safe keeping and maybe flown to Australia for evidence.
I imagine the pilot has shed a few kilo's by now, he looked a little plump on TV, a few weeks in Bomana will change that!
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 09:46
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Originally Posted by Mumbai Merlin
. .. the "drugs" are in safe keeping and maybe flown to Australia for evidence.
In safe keeping ? Do you mean the three boxes totalling 30 kilos, those drugs ??
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