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Bell ditching off Newcastle

Old 29th Sep 2019, 07:25
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Teetering rotor heads can be bad news when faced with turbulence, if it were extremely rough as posited by currawong a mast strike has to be well in the frame. Time will tell. Have landed and idled before to let a front blow through when flying a light weight Huey. Graeme Strachan of Skyhooks fame was undone by flying a teetering head in turbulence. RIP
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Old 29th Sep 2019, 07:41
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https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...aair200104092/

Refers.

Sure some of the rotary types will be able to shed more light.
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Old 13th Oct 2019, 04:37
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Update on the story here.

In short, pilot not qualified and aircraft not certified for night VFR. Was given prompt clearance to transit Willy airspace via coastal route, so not holding at Anna Bay. Was pressing on to Bankstown despite conditions.
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Old 13th Oct 2019, 11:36
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A newspaper article?
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Old 13th Oct 2019, 12:24
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A newspaper article?
Yes, here:

UH-1H missing from Coffs Harbour 6th Sept 2019
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Old 14th Oct 2019, 02:17
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This thread is surprisingly quiet after that reply.
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Old 14th Oct 2019, 03:05
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Originally Posted by junior.VH-LFA View Post
This thread is surprisingly quiet after that reply.
Probably because morbidly itís a case of same-old, same-old. Itís not the first time and it wonít be the last. Assuming it was caused by what they are eluding to.
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Old 14th Oct 2019, 06:22
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Which is why I questioned the update based on a newspaper article! A Courier-Mail investigation!!
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Old 14th Oct 2019, 06:24
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Itís quicker than waiting for an ATSB report and probably just as accurate.

Iíve got a tenner that says 3 years.
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Old 14th Oct 2019, 07:25
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer View Post
Itís quicker than waiting for an ATSB report and probably just as accurate.

Iíve got a tenner that says 3 years.
Raise you another that it says "inconclusive".

How does one get a "tailwind" in a westerly when tracking Newcastle - Bankstown anyway?
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Old 14th Oct 2019, 08:02
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Devil

eluding to.
Point of Order Squawk 7700. Methinks you mean alluding. Eluding means 'to escape from..'

Oh Hang on......we are talking about ATSB now, aren't we?
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Old 14th Oct 2019, 20:33
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More info on the Rotorheads thread.
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Old 14th Oct 2019, 20:39
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BuT wHaT aBoUt RaAf HoLdInG aIrCrAfT...
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Old 14th Oct 2019, 21:52
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Originally Posted by junior.VH-LFA View Post
This thread is surprisingly quiet after that reply.
Iíd prefer that to the alternative!
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Old 16th Oct 2019, 08:40
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Has there been a release of all communications from the transit down the coast including what led up to the clearance through Willy?
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Old 16th Oct 2019, 09:04
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No. And, as with the ‘investigation’ into the ditching of NGA, it is unlikely the recordings will be made publicly available. There may be a selective (and probably error-ridden) transcript of comms, but I wouldn’t expect more.

National security is at stake in this case. Imagine if all the Willy Tower and Willy Approach comms on a late Friday afternoon were revealed: All the comms from those F35s and FA18/A/F/Gs and Wedgetails and the dozens of other ADF assets exercising in the active Romeos would reveal important tactical information to the bad guys. And on top of that there’d be all the civvy traffic comms. Too confusing for laypeople to understand.
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Old 16th Oct 2019, 10:24
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No. And, as with the Ďinvestigationí into the ditching of NGA, it is unlikely the recordings will be made publicly available. There may be a selective (and probably error-ridden) transcript of comms, but I wouldnít expect more.
There's a recording of UVC's exchange with Willy Approach embedded in the Courier-Mail article referenced above. Expectations exceeded already?
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Old 16th Oct 2019, 11:00
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That a complete recording or an extract?
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Old 16th Oct 2019, 11:27
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That a complete recording or an extract?
The recording is only of the initial contact and the controller then asks him to contact delivery for onwards clearance. That exchange is not given.
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Old 16th Oct 2019, 11:45
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Originally Posted by Super Cecil View Post
That a complete recording or an extract?
It's the exchange with Willy Approach not Willy Delivery.
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