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Old 25th Jun 2021, 09:53
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Lookleft, professional pilots also comment on the badly designed controlled airspace. I have been flying for a living for over forty years and throughout that time have been frustrated with both military and civil controlled airspace.
The point is SC is that Airspace is not killing pilots, the lack of airmanship is. The only people muddying the waters are those, such as yourself, who like to tag airspace reform onto fatal accidents. I agree that the airspace can be improved, after all WTF in their right mind would design a 9000' step at 25 dme! Professional pilots have to deal with that in the same way private pilots have to deal with CTA clearances and all the rest. If airspace was killing private pilots who had done all they could to be prepared for CTA contingencies then I would agree that airspace is a factor in pilot fatalities. The stark unpleasant truth however is that there are private pilots who think they have all the answers without having to put in all the effort. Aviation is fairly forgiving but not of idiots with a PPL and a poor attitude.
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 17:56
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The point is SC is that Airspace is not killing pilots, the lack of airmanship is. The only people muddying the waters are those, such as yourself, who like to tag airspace reform onto fatal accidents. I agree that the airspace can be improved, after all WTF in their right mind would design a 9000' step at 25 dme! Professional pilots have to deal with that in the same way private pilots have to deal with CTA clearances and all the rest. If airspace was killing private pilots who had done all they could to be prepared for CTA contingencies then I would agree that airspace is a factor in pilot fatalities. The stark unpleasant truth however is that there are private pilots who think they have all the answers without having to put in all the effort. Aviation is fairly forgiving but not of idiots with a PPL and a poor attitude.
Just as many idiots with a CPL and ATPL too
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 03:04
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Just as many idiots with a CPL and ATPL too
Absolutely agree, I am aware of ATPL holders who have been managed out of the system because of their attitudes and good riddance. In this accident however and the CFIT south of Coffs Harbour, the pilots were PPL holders.
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