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Glen Buckley and Australian small business -V- CASA

Old 5th Oct 2021, 02:38
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Thanks alphacentauri, are you able to provide any details i.e. where is he off to? , when?, the "official" reason etc.
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 04:18
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The new CASA Organisational chart

Well CASA do some stuff quick. Organisational chart already updated today. No Mr Crawford.

Our organisational chart | Civil Aviation Safety Authority (casa.gov.au)
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So the arrogant Scotsman falls on his sword hey? Two down and one to go. Carmody escaped with retirement. Crawford takes the fall for the entire debacle (good riddance), but Dr Aleck aka Teflon Jon, lives another day. C’mon Pip, you’re close, but not close enough….The snake is injured but it’s head still hasn’t been cut off. For a chance at true regulatory reform and a chance to change the direction of CASA and complete the full removal of the Iron Ring, one scalp remains.

Glen, it was interesting to see what Scotty from Marketing had to say about a Federal ICAC being implemented. Of course he opposes it, because if it was introduced there would be no politicians left! He said; “you have got to have processes that assume people are innocent before they are thought to be guilty and that is a real problem." Well, that same philosophy hasn’t been applied in your case Glen. Hopefully your legal team will be able to hold Morrison, his Minister and senior bureaucrats to account. But I dare say that Scotty is too busy defending his Hillshlong pal Brian Houston and having group singalongs while speaking in tongues and laying healing hands on sinners, something that needs to be done to CASA!

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/why-scot...f-acb423e850ef

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Old 6th Oct 2021, 01:05
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Another one air-brushed out of history. Just like the various PMOs over recent years who've caused so much unnecessary stress, cost and destruction.

And never a 'sorry'. Never.

They never made any mistakes. Never.
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Originally Posted by alphacentauri
Can confirm…
The CASA org chart was ‘updated’ 5 October 2021 to reflect the absence of Mr Crawford.

Goodbye, so long, good riddance….
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Old 6th Oct 2021, 08:02
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The Organisational chart

Hopefully the ink doesn't get to dry and a revamped Christmas version is released.
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In CASA’s case, it should read the Disorganisational Chart!
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Originally Posted by Paragraph377
So the arrogant Scotsman falls on his sword hey? Two down and one to go. Carmody escaped with retirement. Crawford takes the fall for the entire debacle (good riddance), but Dr Aleck aka Teflon Jon, lives another day. C’mon Pip, you’re close, but not close enough….The snake is injured but it’s head still hasn’t been cut off. For a chance at true regulatory reform and a chance to change the direction of CASA and complete the full removal of the Iron Ring, one scalp remains.

Glen, it was interesting to see what Scotty from Marketing had to say about a Federal ICAC being implemented. Of course he opposes it, because if it was introduced there would be no politicians left! He said; “you have got to have processes that assume people are innocent before they are thought to be guilty and that is a real problem." Well, that same philosophy hasn’t been applied in your case Glen. Hopefully your legal team will be able to hold Morrison, his Minister and senior bureaucrats to account. But I dare say that Scotty is too busy defending his Hillshlong pal Brian Houston and having group singalongs while speaking in tongues and laying healing hands on sinners, something that needs to be done to CASA!

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/why-scot...f-acb423e850ef
No matter how people vote or what their politics, it is beyond political parties when I say I have reached the point where I simply can't stand Morrison, he is without a doubt, the most incompetent, the most annoyingly inept and do-nothing politician that I think we've ever had as PM. He is certainly the WORST PM in my lifetime. There were people on both sides that many hated from time to time but most of them got sh-t done. May not have been the 'sh-t' we wanted at times but you knew where you stood.

Morrison, IMHO has presided over potentially the most morally corrupt federal government we've ever had - where do you start - from his lies told for the cameras about him "seeking" to do this and "seeking" to do that (but never says he WILL do anything), then he's the classic twiddle his thumbs while Rome burns (literally last summer) followed by another shower of weasel words to obfuscate and shift blame.

All the while he and his minions have ruined the NBN (even Rwanda has better fibre internet than we do), stolen money from people via robodebt, persecuted whistleblowers who expose government bastardry, ruined ANY reputation government and the public service once had, even the ATO has been in the firing line for aggressive debt recovery, presided over a disaster in aged care and blamed it on the States and that's before we even get to the AG affair where this weak-willed, gutless and gormless excuse for a human being (let alone a PM) either walks away and refuses to answer questions or in the case of the AG "It's nothing to do with me because I'm not his boss anymore". Jesus, that wouldn't go a round in the schoolyard as a piss-weak excuse.

Which is all a longish way of saying that yes, I agree, if we had a REAL Federal ICAC, one like NSW with the ability to look backward as well as investigate the present, I suspect there would be at least one former federal minister and at least one former PM either in public hearings or in jail for what was done to East Timor.

I'm not sure it would improve Glen's situation straight away because the last 4-7 years ALONE would have a Federal ICAC occupied for the next 4 years digging through the morally corrupt and reprehensible behavior of this government - it's not surprising what's happened in CASA though, when the tree it is attached to has cancer, it spreads everywhere and the behavior of the Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison government(s) has certainly set the scene for what atrocious behaviour is - there is not one aspect of anything they've done that has not just scraped the bottom of the barrel but made us all realise "if you look UNDER the barrel" as we've long since reached the bottom - AEC colored signs at polling places, lies and secrecy to cover up incompetence.
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Originally Posted by VH-MLE
In CASA’s case, it should read the Disorganisational Chart!
This actually puts me in mind of a brief "Britain's best sitcom" doco I watched part of recently. It was made about 20-30 years ago and was about the making of Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.

The one phrase that stood out in my mind was one of the producers relaying a story about a discussion with Paul Eddington who played Jim Hacker - when he was asked "How would you sum up the character of Jim Hacker" to which Eddington replied "He's a mouse learning to be a rat".

Is it just me or does that seem an apt summary of certain persons in a certain regulator.......
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Could not agree more.
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 22:46
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the behavior of the Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison government(s) has certainly set the scene for what atrocious behaviour
Have you emptied your bile tank? Should we run a contest to see which side of politics you support?
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Old 8th Oct 2021, 02:50
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Originally Posted by megan
Have you emptied your bile tank? Should we run a contest to see which side of politics you support?
Far from 'bile', I happen to think what has been done to Glen is absolutely atrocious and amoral but sadly, it fits the profile of this current government to a tee - I said at the outset, it doesn't matter who you support politically (and just because I criticise them, doesn't mean I support the other side either, but feel free to enlighten me to similar actions by the other side if you like, I don't think you'll find either the extent or the quantity evident in this current government), this government is the most morally corrupt in Australian history - plenty to poke a stick at on the other side of politics too but as far as I'm aware they haven't used an aid program to spy on a friendly country, after which the principles just happened to end up getting consultancy gigs with the company that stood to benefit and who gets prosecuted?? Oh, the whistleblower and his lawyer of course - need I mention robodebt and the complete refusal to answer any questions about anything - and what has become standard government practice in the last 7 years, pursuing, on ridiculous 'secrecy' laws ANYONE who even criticizes the government or any of its programs.

In that environment is it any wonder CASA is allowed to walk all over anyone as do other government departments when the lesson is there for all to see.

Do a google search if you like for one similar example involving Border Farce and the way they treated Nancy Bird-Walton's niece, an Australian Citizen, banging on her door in the middle of the night and threatening her with deportation. Her mother was from PNG so I guess that's how they 'profiled' her - there's a major newspaper story from a couple of years ago. What's worse, is her father was considered a hero and decorated by both the Australian and US Navies for his actions during WWII and a bunch of goons, empowered by this government torment his daughter when she's an Australian citizen. Now, let me see, where have I heard of Australian citizens being deported before, that's right, during Howard's government - I seem to remember at least half a dozen people languishing on the streets in foreign countries because they were wrongly deported - one was a Qantas Flight Attendant FFS.

The fact you dismiss it as bile, suggests you might think what has been done to so many people by this incompetent administration is perfectly OK.
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Old 8th Oct 2021, 07:07
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Not at all AP, plenty to complain about with all governments no matter the party involved, your words "the morally corrupt and reprehensible behavior of this government" can be applied to individuals within all governments, no matter at what level of society they operate (local council to federal), businesses too.
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Originally Posted by megan
Not at all AP, plenty to complain about with all governments no matter the party involved, your words "the morally corrupt and reprehensible behavior of this government" can be applied to individuals within all governments, no matter at what level of society they operate (local council to federal), businesses too.
True, but I believe this government, in the federal sphere (acknowledge there have been corrupt governments at State and local level on all political sides) stands apart in my mind. I cannot in my entire lifetime recall such a prolific collection of not just corrupt, not just morally corrupt, but mean, nasty and deliberately cruel, behavior.

Obviously this is just a comment based on my view of why an organ of the State was able to do what it did to a gentleman like Glen, goes some way to explaining the environment of impunity the government has created - by the way, when I say mean and nasty I mean instituting not just one, but multiple programs of disgusting cruelty that was deliberately targeted to cause harm to the most vulnerable in our society - such as robodebt - a 'program' described by the High Court, when it ORDERED the government to cease and desist, as nothing more than an elaborate program of extortion by a government against the people it purports to represents. People were driven to suicide by that program.

My point being, that's a colossal line that has been crossed, with a number of reasonable parliamentarians even suggesting the country has crossed into a 'pre-Police State'. That, to my knowledge, has never occurred before under any federal government of either political persuasion. Isolated incidents, yes, but this 'mob' has not only cruelly pursued those who challenge it but has repeatedly used the organs of the state to punish, hound and harass. It even descends to the low level of victimizing and denying support to charities that dare to speak out against any particular government policy. That's not just isolated either, its a matter of policy, witness Brandis awarding grants to the arts HE personally liked and denying it to anyone such as comedians that mock the government. Juice Media is a good example of a ridiculous and badly written law that was aimed at nothing more than creating an offense 'impersonating a Commonwealth Entity" which was then used as an excuse for Federal Police to visit the studios of this well known satirical you tube operator and threaten him and his staff with charges under said law. There's some footage of a Senate Inquiry into the law which sounds like something from Yes Prime Minister, except it would've been considered too far-fetched for their writers.

Only thing I can think of to say is that Australia has the government it deserves - as Andrew Wilkie stated (Mr Wilkie being a victim of harrassment by Howard's government for telling the truth about Children overboard) if we're not careful and don't arrest this increasingly accelerating trend, we are going to wake up sometime in the near future and ask ourselves, how the hell did we get here.

I'm no conspiracy theorist by the way, nor politically allied to any party, but I do know something about the constitution and how government is supposed to operate and what 'responsible to parliament' means and what I see is an executive that is out of control and thumbing its nose at custom and precedent and just about any standard of decency. Dutton cancels a visa, High Court orders it be re-issued, so Dutton goes back to his office and cancels it again for a different reason. He goes off deporting people left, right and centre but enables his prominent mates to import their au pairs. That sort of activity is rife at every level of the current government. There have been scandals at the federal level before but never the level of behaviour we are now seeing.

Rant over.
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Hopefully the ink doesn't get to dry and a revamped Christmas version is released.
Glen, reminds me of that old story about the US spending millions of dollars to perfect a pen that would work in zero gravity.... and the whimsical punchline after the detailed examination of the research, development and funds spent.... "The Soviets used pencils".

Perhaps CASA should do their Org Charts in pencil???????
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What about Martin?

How does the Scotsman go and Martin survive. Martin is the most arrogant lier of all, he cannot survive the cull surely. Casa management continue to be a law unto themselves but the new CEO does appear to be able to see through them, lets see where that goes. Does CASA really think anyone with any integrity would join, it would be an embarrassment to work for our regulator as they are today, time for real change, time to listen and genuinely listen to the feedback like it actually matters.

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Old 9th Oct 2021, 15:16
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Craig Martin

you’ve obviously had experience with Craig martin as i have. in a word “cruel”. probably the worst human being i have encountered in my life. On a par with Aleck.

Feeling very pissed tonight as i sit i a hospital bed after having a heart episode on the street. nursing a sore face and my nose broken in two places.

The culmination of three years of being on the receiving end of Martin and Aleck.

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Old 9th Oct 2021, 23:58
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Glen get well soon!
The most important thing here is your well being and obviously the strain is taking a toll on you and your family!
I don't know if I could continue the fight and oppression that you have to date but please take care of yourself and your family!
We stand with you in your fight for justice, real justice, something that has not been seen to date!
Take care of yourself....that is paramount!
All the best!
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Take it easy Glen, that heart needs some rest for now.
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Old 10th Oct 2021, 02:20
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I hope you recover quickly and completely, Glen.

One of the more ghastly realities we face is that some in CASA are prepared for us to be driven to physical or mental breakdown, and ultimately to the grave, in the name of 'aviation safety'. The most dangerous ones are those who are sure they are 'right'.

In 2018 I started a thread about Avmed's biased, intellectually dishonest and unlawful behaviour to which I was personally subjected. An apologist for Avmed posted (as a first post - that's always the 'giveaway') this:
The emotional effort and time to 'fight' for a principle or against perceived slights is not going to be healthy for you in the long term.
In my supplementary submission to the Senate Committee inquiry into the general aviation industry I say this about the above statement:
To people with that mindset, their compliance with the law is a matter of mere principle, not substance. Someone on the receiving end of their unlawful behaviour has suffered a mere perceived slight. Avmed is the authority, and it is for others to comply with whatever, in Avmed's opinion, is required in the interests of aviation safety. The law is for Avmed to wield against others, not for Avmed to comply with if it gets in the way of doing whatever, in Avmed's opinion, will contribute to the achievement of its noble cause.

The single quotation marks around 'fight' and the comment about resistance being bad for your health manifest the languid arrogance of someone who knows that if a mere individual wants to take on an authority committed to a noble cause, the authority is going to bring to bear formidable resources and tactics to drive the individual into the ground. Every 'trick in the book' is going to be used to 'win', including casting the individual in the worst possible light by exaggerating and catastrophizing risks and downplaying matters in favour of the individual. And the process will certainly be very bad for the individual's financial health. ...
Sound familiar?

Submission #56 to the current inquiry details a couple of examples of appalling behaviour and demands by Avmed that in my view are the product, at best, of negligent people who are insouciantly indifferent to demanding medical tests entailing risks to the pilot of permanent brain damage or death many, many orders of magnitude higher than the probabilities of winning the lottery, when people with specialist qualifications and experience consider the tests unnecessary.

It is to be hoped that the new CASA PMO is a change for the better. That would require her to understand and accept that Avmed is supposed to comply with the law like the rest of us. And you can't comply with the law unless you know what it is and means. In my first hand experience and observation, some previous occupants considered themselves to be laws unto themselves. I hope they haven't chosen another one of those.
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