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Glen Buckley and Australian small business -V- CASA

Old 3rd Feb 2021, 10:28
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i will do it all again
Grade 1, ME-IR, loads of training approvals, APTA experience, when do I start?
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 07:44
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Mmmmmmmmmmm

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Grade 1, ME-IR, loads of training approvals, APTA experience, when do I start?
You make me quiver with anticipation, although my wife just rolled her eyes at me.
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Superb analysis, Sunfish, in what appears to be your second-ever post, and welcome to Pprune.
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Old 5th Feb 2021, 02:15
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Mr Carmodys letter to the Senate RRAT in response to my allegation of Misfeasance

Refer the following link Additional Documents – Parliament of Australia (aph.gov.au)
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Was anyone alleging that what CASA allegedly did was not legal?

I donít think so.

Fairness, equity and natural justice? Well?
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Forgive my poor ability to fully comprehend a document of this nature. Can someone break it down for me?

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Old 5th Feb 2021, 16:55
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A massive topic that is impossible to comprehend by providing a short summary.

In a few words.

I was operating a chain of flying schools in Australia, that was effectively closed down overnight, but not on matters of safety or compliance, CASA changed their mind about the business model.

An investigation by our Commonwelath Ombudsmans Office (Govt investigator) has found that CASA erred, but only until well after the damage was done, and many millions of dollars damage caused, businesses closed down etc.

Principally an argument about administrative law,.

I got an opportunity to appear before Parliament and made allegations of misfeasance in public office against members of the CASA Executive., which the CASA CEO is responding to in that correspondence.

If you are interested, please email me at [email protected] and I will send you two magazine articles that summarise the issues.

Safe travels, cheers. Glen
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Summery Doc 2 =

Shane Carmody says about Glen B comments "Liar Liar pants on fire".
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Old 5th Feb 2021, 22:28
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Fairness, equity and natural justice plus estopple.
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I have been following this thread from Day 1. It is truly a tragedy that keeps unfolding, but does not seem to have end. Where does it go from here? CASA calls Glen a liar and rejects his statements, as everyone expects they would. But there is no substance to those rejections. There is no justification to CASA's decision making process, no rationale to support their position. They are just strongly worded rejections. So what happens now? Glen has made serious accusations against the most senior personnel in CASA and there is sufficient evidence that requires those accusations to be investigated and a determination made - but how? This isn't about money as I'm sure there are enough willing to chip in to see this through. This case makes it perfectly clear to all that the 'system' does not actually have a process that allows someone to truly challenge CASA. They are a law unto themselves and they have stacked the processes in their favour. They'll ride you out and destroy you before they get held to account. All of the complaints and review processes are just smoke and mirrors because you cannot ever actually win, even when you are truly correct. It's easy to say that this should just go to court, but the reality is that virtually noone could afford this. So if CASA just has to see you to court, they will always win, which is what we have now. It shouldn't take an industry to stand behind a martyr for justice to be served. Glen you are a hero and like so many others, I pray that you prevail. In the mean time, where does this go from here?
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Originally Posted by ryano
I have been following this thread from Day 1. It is truly a tragedy that keeps unfolding, but does not seem to have end. Where does it go from here? CASA calls Glen a liar and rejects his statements, as everyone expects they would. But there is no substance to those rejections. There is no justification to CASA's decision making process, no rationale to support their position. They are just strongly worded rejections. So what happens now? Glen has made serious accusations against the most senior personnel in CASA and there is sufficient evidence that requires those accusations to be investigated and a determination made - but how? This isn't about money as I'm sure there are enough willing to chip in to see this through. This case makes it perfectly clear to all that the 'system' does not actually have a process that allows someone to truly challenge CASA. They are a law unto themselves and they have stacked the processes in their favour. They'll ride you out and destroy you before they get held to account. All of the complaints and review processes are just smoke and mirrors because you cannot ever actually win, even when you are truly correct. It's easy to say that this should just go to court, but the reality is that virtually noone could afford this. So if CASA just has to see you to court, they will always win, which is what we have now. It shouldn't take an industry to stand behind a martyr for justice to be served. Glen you are a hero and like so many others, I pray that you prevail. In the mean time, where does this go from here?
It goes nowhere. It has gone nowhere for the past 30 years. It will go nowhere for the next 30 years unless there is a Royal Commission or a roo tail sticking out of a giant smoking hole. The end......
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This has been a fascinating read although I've only cursorily engaged. It reeks of government stooges running their bureaucracy BS in order to preserve their jobs, power and money for them and/or their cronies. Since the ****** Carmody is retired he's probably untouchable but seems like he should be roasted and toasted for his involvement.
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If you want a further example of government stooges and bureaucracy look here. Sorry to be off thread, but the machinations are unbelievable, there's an oft quoted saying about fighting city hall.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_...2kgTcNtmJyc3D8
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Angry Subject.

As an Australian Military veteran who served for more than 15 years in two branches, I am appalled by what I have just heard from Alan Jones.
I did 3 tours overseas, including Vietnam and I just can't believe how badly they are treating these guys and their families. When I came home, I (along with many others) was slapped, spat at and threatened by **@@s who had no idea what really happened over there, but all that pales in comparison to what is being done to these men.
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bgbazz, first of all, sincerely, thankyou for your service.

I wish I was around back in the day when you returned home. it would have been a pleasure to join you in dealing with the cowards that spat at you. Although, from all that I've read it would have been you blokes being locked up for defending yourself.

The 'removal' of natural justice seems to be a thing in this country, makes you proud to be an Australian, NOT.
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Thanks for the sentiment mate.
You are quite right about the defending ourselves attitude...we were advised to never wear uniform in public and I vividly remember one of the local cops in my hometown saying to me about a week after I came back..."just stay home because you guys are more trouble than you're worth". My parents were devastated.
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Old 7th Feb 2021, 22:09
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My initial correspondence to CASA

I will refer to this document in more detail in an upcoming Post. The intention of posting now is to pre-empt the required "pending approval" process which I fully respect.

I will be referring to this correspondence in my finalized submission to the Ombudsman which will be finalized within 24 hours.

You will recall that with no warning I received the letter from CASA in Post 44 at Pprune.

I sent that letter within 24 hours. It's very significant, and as I say will be referred to later.
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Old 7th Feb 2021, 22:28
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My first correspondence to CASA CEO, Mr Carmody

On 23rd October, I received the notification from CASA.

Within 24 hours I had responded to the CASA Regional Manager, Mr. Jones and that can be found above at post-1497.

The attached correspondence in this Post is a letter to Mr. Carmody the CASA CEO and the CASA Region Manager at the time (since resigned from CASA).

This was sent to Mr. Carmody on 29/10/18 i.e. 3 days of this matter beginning to unfold. Mr. Carmody never facilitated the meeting. This leads me to believe that CASAs actions may not have been well-intentioned.
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Now would be the perfect time for Minister McCormack and Prime Minister Morrison to exercise their duty of care and right the wrongs committed by his Government upon Mr Buckley and authorise the CASA Board to pay Mr Buckley a multi million dollar ex gratia payment.

It would benefit the Government as they could action this before the new DAS commences his/her tenure, effectively throwing Mr Carmody under the bus. And he won’t care because he has taken his many millions and retired to a life of luxury and retirement. The new DAS starts with a relatively clean plate, the Government gets rid of a perceived thorn in its side, and Glen and his family get to receive the financial compensation they rightfully deserve, as well as some dignity returned and a chance to start a new chapter in life.

To Minister McCormack;
You and your Government have, and are, spending billions of dollars to supposedly save taxpayers ongoing pain during the COVID-19 pandemic. And in normal Government style you and your Government are also pissing away billions of dollars on fighter planes, submarines, international wars and other ****e funded by taxpayers. My challenge to you is for you to prove you are actually a man with a decent set of testicles and the tiniest moral compass and for you to expedite an immediate payment to Mr Buckley and to right the wrongs that this man and his family have been put through at the hands of the Federal Government.


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Here! Here!,

I will drink to that, and you have a formal invite to GA biggest ever Party when this is over!

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