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CASA - ATPL Theory

Old 28th May 2019, 08:53
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PSD calculations

With regards to the PSD calculations, AFT has written up a page or two describing how to "close-in" on the PSD position if you are not given any multi-choice answers. Perhaps you might want to refresh your memory on that. The whole idea is to trial and error until your ETI adds up to within 1 minute of the safe endurance given in the question.
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Old 31st May 2019, 02:57
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Hey mate, excellent post. I agree with everything you said and info like this is great for people who aren't sure what to expect going into exams.

I found the trick with Systems was doing heaps of practise exams and use these as a study guide. There is simply too much content to remember. It differs from other exams like Flight Planning, where you start off doing heading and ground speed calculations, then normal basic flight plans, then backwards plans, then abnormals - each thing builds on the last. Systems is just pages and pages of info, there is about 300 pages of info in the Higgins textbook (not including revision and practise exams) and in theory you could be asked a question on any sentence in those 300 pages. However, don't wrote learn the answers, some questions appear different on the exam. I would estimate that 90% of the questions in my exam I had seen (either the exact same or a variation of) in either the Higgins or Avery practise exams (I would recommend Higgins though). You last week before the exam should just be going over practise exams, and doing the same one multiple times. If you keep getting a question wrong, go back and study it some more.

Also I'm not sure what order you did the exams, but I would recommend doing Flight Planning and Nav after each other, they are probably the two most similar exams. It shouldn't matter which way around. I did Nav after Planning and I found it like an easier version of planning with some theory thrown in.

It took me ages to do Flight Planning, so I would recommend doing that one first. If it takes you over 6 months, like it did for me, thats chewing into your 2 year window by a fair bit. Maybe do an easier subject first if you want do 'get back into the swing of things' before tackling the beast that is Planning, but just be aware you might have to resit that exam. If you were going to do a course, Flight Planning is definitely the one to do it for.

Here are my ranks from hardest to easiest, plus some tips and the time it took me to self-study:
  1. ​​​​​​​Flight Planning - You need to strike the right balance of being accurate and fast. Figure out what the question is asking for, don't bother doing a whole flight plan if you don't need to. [6 months +]
  2. Systems - As mentioned above, heaps of content. Do lots of practise exams. [2 months]
  3. Navigation - As mentioned above, I did this after Flight Planning so it just felt like an easier version of Planning. [1 month after doing Planning, allow 2 months if you haven't done Planning]
  4. Performance - As OP mentioned, just be really accurate. [2 weeks]
  5. Human factors - Find a good textbook as many are lacking on TEM. I actually failed this one with 67% because I thought it would be easy and I only put in about 5 hours of study. [1 week]
  6. Law - The only tricky thing is the 80% pass mark. Just get good at finding things and don't try and remember stuff by heart. [1-2 weeks]
  7. Meteorology - I agree with OP, definitely the easiest exam. [1-2 weeks]
Note: The times taken aren't my recommendation or anything, they are just so you can compare how long it takes to study each exam. I was working full time as a pilot, so things like overnights and checks definitely slowed my progress.
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Old 9th Jun 2019, 15:06
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Second time's a charm.. managed to pass nav comfortably yesterday. Took a different approach this time where I went straight to the 3 markers at the end, picked which one I thought was going to be easier out of the two, did that first, then went back to the start of the exam. This left me with 40 minutes to have a crack at the other 3 marker when I got to that point, and I still felt fairly fresh and didn't have 2 huge questions in a row to try and tackle. I recommend that strategy to anyone doing it also! Was also lucky enough that the PSD question was multiple choice so was simple enough to use process of elimination. xCartzy I wish I had found your thread a week earlier than I did and I might have had more luck with the true alt question first time around. If I can offer any advice about that exam it would be to make sure you're proficient with the math side of things. It's not hard math but easy to make a mistake on the calculator without realizing and boom wrong answer. Also be proficient with Mach, TAS and CAS conversions as some questions will provide the info in a roundabout way.
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Old 28th Oct 2019, 12:36
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Hi guys
I have a problem,
I applied for an airline overseas and they do require a letter from casa stating that I have a credir for ATPL theory and obviously casa doesn’t have as such,other states like EASA,FAA etc... they’ll either endorse your licence with frozen ATPL or give you a certificate that you’ve passed the theory subjects,but here they insist on pre-requisite report on form 059 which still doesn’t show the credit for ATPL theory and it’s like KDR’s whether you passed or failed.
what do you think I should do ?
any suggestions
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Old 28th Oct 2019, 14:55
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When you passed your final ATPL subject you would have been given a print out by the ASL supervisor with the subjects and results written on it. What did you do with that?

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Old 28th Oct 2019, 15:11
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Originally Posted by Flyer4040 View Post
Hi guys
I have a problem,
I applied for an airline overseas and they do require a letter from casa stating that I have a credir for ATPL theory and obviously casa doesnít have as such,other states like EASA,FAA etc... theyíll either endorse your licence with frozen ATPL or give you a certificate that youíve passed the theory subjects,but here they insist on pre-requisite report on form 059 which still doesnít show the credit for ATPL theory and itís like KDRís whether you passed or failed.
what do you think I should do ?
any suggestions
If you submit the form under the self-service portal (can't remember which one but there's one), you'll be able to get a summary for the CASA atpl subjects (it's a summary of all your theory exam results), which will say that the seven atpls are credited. Sort of like AMET - Credited. Basically if you login to your self-service portal and check your theory exam results, the paper form that you get from casa will look fairly similar.

Bit hard to explain but I hope you sorta get my drift.
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Old 28th Oct 2019, 19:38
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I don't recall seeing one of those...
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Old 28th Oct 2019, 21:08
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So part 61 really hasnt made anything easier!

Do you still need the exam passes endorsed in your logbook? Maybe take a copy of that and get it certified true.
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Old 28th Oct 2019, 22:52
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Bingo
you nailed it.
haven’t thought about it before
yea like a sticky label,which previously was enforced.
ill have to ask an examiner to see if I can do it
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Old 28th Oct 2019, 22:53
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The pre-requisite report does show credited exams once you have passed all 7 subject parts for CPL & ATPL. Although Iím not entirely sure about overseas carriers, a pre-requisite report would suffice for the purpose of showing passes in all ATPL subjects when applying to Australian carriers.
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Old 28th Oct 2019, 23:59
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You don’t even need pre requisite report in oz as all the operators know the requirements,KDRs should be just fine,for overseas operators,they don’t know the requirements in Australia and pre requisite report doesn’t necessarily show you have passed all subjects,how should they know that
also with sticky labels,they just dont exist anymore and I’m stuffed ������
the casa REGS are ridiculous,they could just write a line ATPL CREDIT THEORY in the licence.
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Old 29th Oct 2019, 00:32
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Have you tried asking CLARC nicely if they can write you a letter saying you have passed all ATPL theory subjects? I know its a long shot but they once wrote me a letter stating that Australian licences dont have expiry dates.
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Old 29th Oct 2019, 02:34
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The CASA Self Service Portal shows all your licenses, ratings, endorsements and medical status.
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Old 29th Oct 2019, 02:58
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We arent talking about local operators.

What Flyer4040 is getting at is the portal doesnt say "all ATPL subjects complete" or something similar.

Overseas airlines have no idea how many ATPL exams we have and aren't interested in becoming experts on how CASA do things.
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Old 29th Oct 2019, 15:51
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Iím pretty sure any carrier that is committed to do some proper recruiting would have already done some research into the licensing requirements of the country that the candidate obtained their licence/subjects from. The CASA website is only a google search away, and they do make it obvious that there are 7 subject parts to be passed for the issue of an Australian ATPL (theory credit)
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Old 10th Nov 2021, 00:16
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Next step after the CASA ATPL theory

Great information on the CASA ATPL theory. This would certainly assist many in completing their CASA ATPL theory exams. However, would you or anyone know what is the next step in obtaining a CASA ATPL?

Below is the extract from the CASA website. However, I would appreciate some clarity on it.

How do I get my ATPL?

You must be at least 21 years old to get your ATPL. You also need to do the following for the category rating you want to get with your ATPL:
  • hold either a commercial pilot licence or multi-crew pilot licence with the same aircraft category rating
  • complete the relevant flight training
  • learn the theory and pass an ATPL theory exam for the category rating
  • complete an approved course of multi-crew cooperation training
  • pass an ATPL flight test
  • meet the minimum aeronautical experience requirements.

1. What is the "relevant flight training" which is being referred to?
Would the hours obtained (1500+) during commercial flying be relevant?
Or would the relevant training undertaken during command upgrade cover this requirement?
2. Which examiner would conduct an ATPL flight test? No information on this is provided by CASA.
3. Would the "Minimum aeronautical experience" include the 1500+ hours with specific hour requirements for PIC, NIGHT, cross country, etc.

Thank you
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Old 10th Nov 2021, 15:20
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1. What is the "relevant flight training" which is being referred to?
Would the hours obtained (1500+) during commercial flying be relevant?
Or would the relevant training undertaken during command upgrade cover this requirement?
I believe the flight training has to be completed by a Part 142 organisation and meet the requirements of the CASA Syllabus as part of an actual course. Airlines who have part 142 approval usually do this inhouse. Unfortunately commercial experience does not count for the training under the new requirements. I believe that Flight Options in QLD is one of the schools that offers the training and flight test privately - I'm not aware of any other schools that currently have the approval.
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2. Which examiner would conduct an ATPL flight test? No information on this is provided by CASA.
Flight Examiners are no longer "CASA Officers" like they used to be, so there is no longer a list of them available online as it is another rating on your licence, like the flight instructor rating or instrument rating. The school that you go through would provide a testing officer for you.
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3. Would the "Minimum aeronautical experience" include the 1500+ hours with specific hour requirements for PIC, NIGHT, cross country, etc.
Yes, there are specific requirements - see the link below

Probably worth mentioning that the ATPL test has to be conducted in flight or an approved sim in a multi engine turboprop, multi crew with the candidate as PIC.

You'll find more information such as the hour requirements here: https://www.casa.gov.au/standard-pag...-pilot-licence
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