Yet another Yank with a visa question...
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Yet another Yank with a visa question...
OK, there's a ton of info about visas and things in the forum, but most of it saying that to do any flying you need an 800 series visa or a bridge visa.
If I had time to do all the research I'd probably be able to find the exact answer I'm looking for, but I'm on a time crunch. My wife is interviewing at Griffith and one of the requirements will be that they grant visas to us both, but we need to know EXACTLY what we're asking for. They've said (and done before for others) that they will issue whatever visa we need - apparently they have the power to do that - but I need to make sure I'm asking for the right thing so that I can come over and do all this piloty stuff.
As more background, I'm and FAA ATP flying Falcons, Hawkers, and Lear45's with about 2500 hours... and would start working on my conversions as soon as I can.
Anyone able to guide me a bit in the next day or so?
-Ian
If I had time to do all the research I'd probably be able to find the exact answer I'm looking for, but I'm on a time crunch. My wife is interviewing at Griffith and one of the requirements will be that they grant visas to us both, but we need to know EXACTLY what we're asking for. They've said (and done before for others) that they will issue whatever visa we need - apparently they have the power to do that - but I need to make sure I'm asking for the right thing so that I can come over and do all this piloty stuff.
As more background, I'm and FAA ATP flying Falcons, Hawkers, and Lear45's with about 2500 hours... and would start working on my conversions as soon as I can.
Anyone able to guide me a bit in the next day or so?
-Ian
If you want some good information post over at Visas and immigration - Living and Working in Australia Forum With Immigration and Travel Information
Absolute wealth of information there.
Is it a temporary position or permanent? You probably need to speak to a migration agent, there are a few reputable ones who post on that forum who can also do skype interviews/appointments, maybe worth paying for some initial advice that way.
Absolute wealth of information there.
Is it a temporary position or permanent? You probably need to speak to a migration agent, there are a few reputable ones who post on that forum who can also do skype interviews/appointments, maybe worth paying for some initial advice that way.
Kiwiconehead is on the money. If you want to find out about Australian visas that's the place, I have not seen much accurate information about Australian visas on PPRuNe.
Your post is not very clear - your wife is being interviewed! is she the primary applicant?
"that they will issue whatever visa we need - apparently they have the power to do that" - who is "they" (sounds dodgy!!).
If you post on that forum some basics will help such as wife's occupation (and citizenship), ages of both of you and length of relationship. Oh and if Permanent Residence is the goal.
Your post is not very clear - your wife is being interviewed! is she the primary applicant?
"that they will issue whatever visa we need - apparently they have the power to do that" - who is "they" (sounds dodgy!!).
If you post on that forum some basics will help such as wife's occupation (and citizenship), ages of both of you and length of relationship. Oh and if Permanent Residence is the goal.
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Kiwiconehead is on the money. If you want to find out about Australian visas that's the place, I have not seen much accurate information about Australian visas on PPRuNe.
Your post is not very clear - your wife is being interviewed! is she the primary applicant?
"that they will issue whatever visa we need - apparently they have the power to do that" - who is "they" (sounds dodgy!!).
If you post on that forum some basics will help such as wife's occupation (and citizenship), ages of both of you and length of relationship. Oh and if Permanent Residence is the goal.
Your post is not very clear - your wife is being interviewed! is she the primary applicant?
"that they will issue whatever visa we need - apparently they have the power to do that" - who is "they" (sounds dodgy!!).
If you post on that forum some basics will help such as wife's occupation (and citizenship), ages of both of you and length of relationship. Oh and if Permanent Residence is the goal.
Sorry... She's interviewing at Griffith University for a fairly high level, long term position. She's American; I'm American, French, and Swiss... The idea is Permanent Residence with a route for citizenship for her... I don't need a 4th, but what the hell, if they offer it, I won't turn it down.
I'm honestly not sure how my flying stuff will convert... I'm honestly enjoying the corporate aviation thing here in the US... Fly somewhere beachy for a few days, drink some Margaritas and Mai-Tai's and then fly back... not sure if that's a thing in Aus.
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Other reply hasn't shown up... going to try this again:
Wife is interviewing for a high level position at Griffith University. Based on other hires for similar positions, they're definitely up for doing whatever it takes to get both of us here (the whole package deal thing) and they've done full-on visas for others in the past... I just have to know what to ask for when it comes time for that. I'd love to stay in corporate aviation, but not entirely sure how that would work over there... may end up doing the airline thing after all... lots of research to be done!
She's American; I'm American, French, & Swiss. The position is a permanent resident with citizenship down the road type of position. I don't particularly need another one, but if they're offering, what the hell, I'll take it. By the time we move there, we'll both be 39.
Thanks Kiwi for that link... another rabbit hole to follow, but seems to be lots of good info there!
Wife is interviewing for a high level position at Griffith University. Based on other hires for similar positions, they're definitely up for doing whatever it takes to get both of us here (the whole package deal thing) and they've done full-on visas for others in the past... I just have to know what to ask for when it comes time for that. I'd love to stay in corporate aviation, but not entirely sure how that would work over there... may end up doing the airline thing after all... lots of research to be done!
She's American; I'm American, French, & Swiss. The position is a permanent resident with citizenship down the road type of position. I don't particularly need another one, but if they're offering, what the hell, I'll take it. By the time we move there, we'll both be 39.
Thanks Kiwi for that link... another rabbit hole to follow, but seems to be lots of good info there!
The only thing you should be worried about is the length of time your partners visa is issued for. Whatever one is issued you will also get the right to live and work in Australia also but only for the same amount of time and only if you are officially a couple. I don't think Australia recognise defacto unions.
So if your partners visa is only valid for 2 years then so is yours. Few operators will hire you if there is a possibility that your visa might not be renewed.
So if your partners visa is only valid for 2 years then so is yours. Few operators will hire you if there is a possibility that your visa might not be renewed.
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There are a variety of Visas which may suit your circumstances. If your wife is the primary Visa holder, the appropriate Visa is the one which suits her circumstances. If your wife is interviewing at Griffith I assume she is an academic?
If she is granted a Visa permitting employment, you will be granted a similar Visa permitting employment, with freedom to engage in your chosen profession. If your sole profession is "pilot" it would be extremely difficult for you to be the primary Visa holder. With a few minor exceptions, we have enough "pilots" here already and it is not a Skill in Demand. Don't expect to walk into a flying job, especially in Brisbane or the Gold Coast (where Griffith has Campuses); I doubt there are any jobs on the types you specified and perhaps you should brush up on your piston engine knowledge.
You also need to understand the processing time for Visas is generally many months. Griffith would not have any way to influence the time taken to approve and issue a Visa.
You are really wasting your time asking Visa questions in this forum and expecting accurate answers. Kiwi recommended: Visas and immigration - Living and Working in Australia Forum With Immigration and Travel Information
Even better: https://www.australia.gov.au/informa...sas/work-visas
Not being difficult - I really wish you the best of luck - but the reality of obtaining a Visa and pilot employment in Australia is far, far from being a fairy tale with a happy ending.
If she is granted a Visa permitting employment, you will be granted a similar Visa permitting employment, with freedom to engage in your chosen profession. If your sole profession is "pilot" it would be extremely difficult for you to be the primary Visa holder. With a few minor exceptions, we have enough "pilots" here already and it is not a Skill in Demand. Don't expect to walk into a flying job, especially in Brisbane or the Gold Coast (where Griffith has Campuses); I doubt there are any jobs on the types you specified and perhaps you should brush up on your piston engine knowledge.
You also need to understand the processing time for Visas is generally many months. Griffith would not have any way to influence the time taken to approve and issue a Visa.
You are really wasting your time asking Visa questions in this forum and expecting accurate answers. Kiwi recommended: Visas and immigration - Living and Working in Australia Forum With Immigration and Travel Information
Even better: https://www.australia.gov.au/informa...sas/work-visas
Not being difficult - I really wish you the best of luck - but the reality of obtaining a Visa and pilot employment in Australia is far, far from being a fairy tale with a happy ending.
I would be wary of using the government web link supplied by tail wheel other than a basic guide and never call them or email them with questions.
You will simply by the sounds of it be a secondary applicant on your wife's visa application, so not much for you to prove other than in a genuine and ongoing relationship with her. Australia do acknowledge de facto relationships but the relationship must be longer than 12 months old.
As for the visa application for you they will only care that you pass the medical requirement and character (police clearances) requirements - they don't give a rats about your employment or occupation history.
Skilled work visas are pretty quick to be approved and have a priority status. All valid and complete applications will be approved and good migration companies know exactly what and how to put in good compliant applications. The key is to have access to PAM 3 (the current departments policy on visa processing).
I am a very long term, very active member of that other forum and have a fair idea about a number of visas and processes.
You will simply by the sounds of it be a secondary applicant on your wife's visa application, so not much for you to prove other than in a genuine and ongoing relationship with her. Australia do acknowledge de facto relationships but the relationship must be longer than 12 months old.
As for the visa application for you they will only care that you pass the medical requirement and character (police clearances) requirements - they don't give a rats about your employment or occupation history.
Skilled work visas are pretty quick to be approved and have a priority status. All valid and complete applications will be approved and good migration companies know exactly what and how to put in good compliant applications. The key is to have access to PAM 3 (the current departments policy on visa processing).
I am a very long term, very active member of that other forum and have a fair idea about a number of visas and processes.
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Texanav8r,
I read your post.
If your partner gets the required visa, then you'll also get the same visa.
Same thing happens for Australian E3 visa holders going to the U.S
You will have the right to live and work in OZ until the visa expires or is extended.
In terms of aviation work, you need to convert your license and qualifications through the necessary process.
You have to remember, it's such a small aviation jobs and people market here, compared to the U.S.
It can be such a headache going through the license conversion system here, but if that's what you want to do,
it costs time and money.
You will get through and obtain your qualifications, but it's a headache.
Your best bet is to get a flight instructor rating and work as a flight instructor until you get yourself organised.
There are corporate jet jobs advertised throughout the year, every now and then, mostly in Sydney and Melbourne.
I have come across U.S pilots, that ended up in QF in the past, but were married to Australian partners prior to arriving, they had jet time as yourself.
I've come across people that got into QF that were from other countries, they like skilled jet personnel.
Apart from aviation work, life is so expensive here, you won't understand until you try it.
I read your post.
If your partner gets the required visa, then you'll also get the same visa.
Same thing happens for Australian E3 visa holders going to the U.S
You will have the right to live and work in OZ until the visa expires or is extended.
In terms of aviation work, you need to convert your license and qualifications through the necessary process.
You have to remember, it's such a small aviation jobs and people market here, compared to the U.S.
It can be such a headache going through the license conversion system here, but if that's what you want to do,
it costs time and money.
You will get through and obtain your qualifications, but it's a headache.
Your best bet is to get a flight instructor rating and work as a flight instructor until you get yourself organised.
There are corporate jet jobs advertised throughout the year, every now and then, mostly in Sydney and Melbourne.
I have come across U.S pilots, that ended up in QF in the past, but were married to Australian partners prior to arriving, they had jet time as yourself.
I've come across people that got into QF that were from other countries, they like skilled jet personnel.
Apart from aviation work, life is so expensive here, you won't understand until you try it.
What is going on here? Not one degrogatory reply, no one being unhelpful, people willing to help!
How un Australian.
You may not need to convert your license, mind you it’s easy enough if you do.
Look at the N registered aircraft flying here... Now getting a job with them that’s another story!
Ahhh fly to the beach and back, ain’t that the life!
How un Australian.
You may not need to convert your license, mind you it’s easy enough if you do.
Look at the N registered aircraft flying here... Now getting a job with them that’s another story!
Ahhh fly to the beach and back, ain’t that the life!
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Are you sure you're a citizen of 3 countries? I've not heard of that before. Perhaps you're confusing citizenship with residency? Australia, as do most Western countries allow dual citizenship i.e, You can be an Australian citizen and citizen of one other country only. So if you did want to become an Australian down the track, you would have to relinquish some of your existing citizenship's. For example, I am a permanent resident of Australia and a citizen of NZ and the UK (have NZ and UK passports). If I wished to become an Australian citizen (never seen the point in my case), I'd have to give up either the NZ or UK passport.
Are you sure you're a citizen of 3 countries? I've not heard of that before. Perhaps you're confusing citizenship with residency? Australia, as do most Western countries allow dual citizenship i.e, You can be an Australian citizen and citizen of one other country only. So if you did want to become an Australian down the track, you would have to relinquish some of your existing citizenship's. For example, I am a permanent resident of Australia and a citizen of NZ and the UK (have NZ and UK passports). If I wished to become an Australian citizen (never seen the point in my case), I'd have to give up either the NZ or UK passport.
It's not that hard to have multiple due birthplace, parentage, and naturalisation. I have four, and my son the same, although only three passports, currently. With Brexit I'll add Ireland to our passport collection to maintain our EU access.
