State of Safety Culture
So why did Eddie Dean say no fuel was uploaded to the aircraft at the site of the forced landing?
There may well have been a convincing story to a non turbine pilot to make statements as he did but they did not hold water to other company staff, CAsA or ATSB - not the first time.
But do remember no official channel is willing to say that it ran out of fuel - that highlights the name of this thread and the state aviation is in Australia.
I hope Eddy and the pilot in question both learn from this (if it is fact) and both move forward using it as a positive - on the bright side it was a great genuine emergency landing and that takes skill.
Isn’t there still a possibility that it was starvation rather than exhaustion? Finger trouble rather than calculator trouble?
Unless it was deliberate or recklessly wrong fuel planning or management on the pilot’s part, I reckon it’s a bit rough if s/he has been made to walk the plank. S/he won’t make that mistake again - if a mistake was made - and, as Band says, a perfectly executed forced landing demonstrates considerable skill under pressure.
Unless it was deliberate or recklessly wrong fuel planning or management on the pilot’s part, I reckon it’s a bit rough if s/he has been made to walk the plank. S/he won’t make that mistake again - if a mistake was made - and, as Band says, a perfectly executed forced landing demonstrates considerable skill under pressure.
Leady, I think the time frame has gone to give any credibility to any official source of it being starvation or exhaustion.
Only if more need to walk the plank?
CP's & C&TP's are very valuable items to retain at almost all costs and must be protected!
We live in a dangerous time.
Only if more need to walk the plank?
CP's & C&TP's are very valuable items to retain at almost all costs and must be protected!
We live in a dangerous time.
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I'm pretty sure I checked the ATSB site today and they are still gathering information on this, can you please fwd your acquaintance details on to ATSB so they can learn how to be efficient and learn where to get information.
Yep I know while it is not closed (finalized) - there is work to be done, hours can be justified, staff shortages declared, budgets justified and increased.
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You claim to be ‘in the know’, Eddie.
Which was it: starvation or exhaustion?
Which was it: starvation or exhaustion?
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It amazes me that a multi engine turbine can be required to forced land on a highway and not a word has been said about it. There is obviously much that can be taken away from this incident, yet the lessons seemingly will be required to be learnt by people (again) the hard way.
People make mistakes, all of you have, I certainly have, owning up to them and passing on the lessons learnt stops them from happening again, with potentially much more serious consequences. If it was indeed a technical or mechanical fault, then I'd appreciate knowing what and why so I can formulate my own plan of action on how I'd handle something similar and add that to my tool box.
People make mistakes, all of you have, I certainly have, owning up to them and passing on the lessons learnt stops them from happening again, with potentially much more serious consequences. If it was indeed a technical or mechanical fault, then I'd appreciate knowing what and why so I can formulate my own plan of action on how I'd handle something similar and add that to my tool box.
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It amazes me that a multi engine turbine can be required to forced land on a highway and not a word has been said about it. There is obviously much that can be taken away from this incident, yet the lessons seemingly will be required to be learnt by people (again) the hard way.
People make mistakes, all of you have, I certainly have, owning up to them and passing on the lessons learnt stops them from happening again, with potentially much more serious consequences. If it was indeed a technical or mechanical fault, then I'd appreciate knowing what and why so I can formulate my own plan of action on how I'd handle something similar and add that to my tool box.
People make mistakes, all of you have, I certainly have, owning up to them and passing on the lessons learnt stops them from happening again, with potentially much more serious consequences. If it was indeed a technical or mechanical fault, then I'd appreciate knowing what and why so I can formulate my own plan of action on how I'd handle something similar and add that to my tool box.
