A Singapore Sojourn
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A Singapore Sojourn
Folks,
I hear a (well found but still a) rumour that CASA head, Shane Carmody is on a junket to the Singapore Air Show.
Given the state of GA in Australia, and other pressing and really critical aviation problems in Australia, I really do wonder, if it is true, if such a junket is a good use of the time of Mr. Carmody.
If the rumour is true, are our fuel levies and/or other tax dollars paying??
I wonder if his Minister, the Deputy PM, Barnaby Joyce, a "no-nonsense" Minister if there ever was one, would approve of such a trip.
Perhaps a useful thing to do on such a trip would be to take the opportunity to take a look at the commendably simple, straightforward, modern and efficient aviation "rules and regulations" Singapore has put in place, making Singapore hyper-competitive on the aviation stage.
Along with NZ and Canada, a truly "model" legislative framework to encourage and promote the aviation sector, hand in hand with advanced risk management (safety).
And virtually 100% ICAO compliant.
With the aviation businesses attracted to Singapore as a result, and don't kid yourself about wage levels in the Republic of Singapore, costs of employment are high, but so is productivity.
In contrast to the cost, complexity and rigidity of the CASA "reformed" regulations, that have already largely put Australia out of business, aviation maintenance wise, domestically and internationally, and with the upcoming Part 135 likely to be the final nail in the coffin of what little remains of GA "charter".
Tootle pip!!
I hear a (well found but still a) rumour that CASA head, Shane Carmody is on a junket to the Singapore Air Show.
Given the state of GA in Australia, and other pressing and really critical aviation problems in Australia, I really do wonder, if it is true, if such a junket is a good use of the time of Mr. Carmody.
If the rumour is true, are our fuel levies and/or other tax dollars paying??
I wonder if his Minister, the Deputy PM, Barnaby Joyce, a "no-nonsense" Minister if there ever was one, would approve of such a trip.
Perhaps a useful thing to do on such a trip would be to take the opportunity to take a look at the commendably simple, straightforward, modern and efficient aviation "rules and regulations" Singapore has put in place, making Singapore hyper-competitive on the aviation stage.
Along with NZ and Canada, a truly "model" legislative framework to encourage and promote the aviation sector, hand in hand with advanced risk management (safety).
And virtually 100% ICAO compliant.
With the aviation businesses attracted to Singapore as a result, and don't kid yourself about wage levels in the Republic of Singapore, costs of employment are high, but so is productivity.
In contrast to the cost, complexity and rigidity of the CASA "reformed" regulations, that have already largely put Australia out of business, aviation maintenance wise, domestically and internationally, and with the upcoming Part 135 likely to be the final nail in the coffin of what little remains of GA "charter".
Tootle pip!!
Last edited by LeadSled; 1st Feb 2018 at 03:36. Reason: typo
Can’t see any relevance that Singapore CAAS has to CASA. There is little Singapore GA apart from local flying school and WOA. All other aircraft are foreign registered on international AOCs, FAA, Chinese and European popular.
As for airlines, if Aussie airlines adopted CAAS flight and duty and FRMS then yes airlines would get a lot more out of pilots but I think unions would erm have a field day.
A trip to OSHKOSH is what is needed for him, go and see real GA.
Singapore is corporate, airline and military - GA tiny, but Wings over Asia do a good job.
In a sense Singapore is the ultimate corporate playground but for different reasons.
Seen the price of a service at Hawkers? Don’t think labor rates play into it.
As for airlines, if Aussie airlines adopted CAAS flight and duty and FRMS then yes airlines would get a lot more out of pilots but I think unions would erm have a field day.
A trip to OSHKOSH is what is needed for him, go and see real GA.
Singapore is corporate, airline and military - GA tiny, but Wings over Asia do a good job.
In a sense Singapore is the ultimate corporate playground but for different reasons.
Seen the price of a service at Hawkers? Don’t think labor rates play into it.
An AOC application in SIN is 5 pages and costs S$150.
The SIN CAAS suggests it can be completed in less than 2 hours.
What is it in Aust now, how long to complete, what is the cost and how long does it take ?
The SIN CAAS suggests it can be completed in less than 2 hours.
What is it in Aust now, how long to complete, what is the cost and how long does it take ?
AOC I don’t think so.
https://www.caas.gov.sg/operations-s...-air-operators
Try $150,000 application fee and a fee more than 5 pages. Why do you think there are so few AOC holders?
Singapore is a fantastic place for business aviation, just not with a local AOC! Why would you when you can add international ops to your existing AOC from any country and get a permit to operate.
I am certainly pro Singapore, but don’t go quoting fantasy figures, there have been a few who have tried to get the local AOC and failed. Things may change in the future but as of now nope.
All of the recommendation of the Aviation Safety Regulation Review have been actioned. Mr Carmody’s work is done. All is fine in aviation in Australia!
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Someone should file an FOI request to find out:
• how many CASA staff went with him;
• the total cost of the junket; and
• what benefit did Australian aviation derive from the trip and cost?
• how many CASA staff went with him;
• the total cost of the junket; and
• what benefit did Australian aviation derive from the trip and cost?
10000....time to get proactive. !! That person is YOU
Hook into the CAsA site and send an email to the FOI with yr queries, being specific and asking for all paperwork, emails, file notes etc pertaining to yr requests.
Let us know how you get on..
Carbody has been complaining lately that people are asking for too many FOIs.
Oh dear ! We, the aviating community are such a pain in disturbing the Fort so much.
Should you get a bum steer as often happens, with some bs shonky excuses, then you can have a review at OAIC / Office of the Information Commissioner.
Be patient.... CAsA have turned NON-FOI into a fine art.
Keep us posted
Hook into the CAsA site and send an email to the FOI with yr queries, being specific and asking for all paperwork, emails, file notes etc pertaining to yr requests.
Let us know how you get on..
Carbody has been complaining lately that people are asking for too many FOIs.
Oh dear ! We, the aviating community are such a pain in disturbing the Fort so much.
Should you get a bum steer as often happens, with some bs shonky excuses, then you can have a review at OAIC / Office of the Information Commissioner.
Be patient.... CAsA have turned NON-FOI into a fine art.
Keep us posted
Be patient.... CAsA have turned NON-FOI into a fine art
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If the Singapore air show is similar to the other main shows, Farnborough, Paris, Dubai,Avalon etc. with respect to on site seminars, then I would expect there to be a hall booked for a one or two day seminar, during the show, where all regulators are invited and a main subject will be standardisation. (with respect to on site seminars - included as I know the usual Avalon knockers would otherwise have steam coming from their key boards by now!
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and a main subject will be standardisation. (with respect to on site seminars
Don't knock CASA, they achieve a high degree of compliance with standardization by differences, how many now filed with ICAO, figure quoted vary from 1600+, to over 2200?
I don't think anybody in Can'tberra really knows.
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