AVDATA landing fees - automatic from CTAF calls?
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Thread from 2002
This is what happened in 2003
The Act
....even wrote a nice letter for what little good it did.
This is what happened in 2003
The Act
....even wrote a nice letter for what little good it did.
I searched Austlii and it seems there is mirror legislation in each of the States.
How they justify charging for a flight that doesn't land and doesn't use their facilities or services, I'm damned if I know.
I think I'll stick to the criminal law...at least they're honest crooks!
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Way back in the recesses of my memory there was a case where a landowner tried unsuccessfully to claim ownership of the airspace above his property but the black letter overrides this as far as aerodromes are concerned.
Join the airport users action group and add more weight to their representations.
Kaz
I had something similar with Rottnest Island charging me for a missed approach via AVDATA. They had no right to charge me for the airspace above Rottnest. It took a lot of to and fro and was quite fun watching so many people passing the buck around, but they shut up when I told them that the so-called "Rottnest" chargeable airspace was not depicted on aeronautical charts and even if it had been they couldn't prove my distance from the island when I commenced the missed approach etc etc etc...I wasn't going to give in and eventually they issued me with a credit, quite sure I used up a lot more than $50 of their time arguing about it.
To be fair that is the only time that they argued about it, normally a credit is issued in the event of a dispute as they have to prove you DID land there, you don't have to prove that you DIDN'T.
To be fair that is the only time that they argued about it, normally a credit is issued in the event of a dispute as they have to prove you DID land there, you don't have to prove that you DIDN'T.
The RNAV I presume is a service. A landing is about access to property.
Way back in the recesses of my memory there was a case where a landowner tried unsuccessfully to claim ownership of the airspace above his property but the black letter overrides this as far as aerodromes are concerned.
Join the airport users action group and add more weight to their representations.
Kaz
Way back in the recesses of my memory there was a case where a landowner tried unsuccessfully to claim ownership of the airspace above his property but the black letter overrides this as far as aerodromes are concerned.
Join the airport users action group and add more weight to their representations.
Kaz
I make it a habit to avoid, to the extent practicable, anywhere that charges.
The selling off of Commonwealth aerodromes is one of the more aggregious crimes against the taxpayer and aviation.
The selling off of Commonwealth aerodromes is one of the more aggregious crimes against the taxpayer and aviation.
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Perhaps someone can tell me what the current charge is for adding and maintaining an RNAV approach to an airfield? I have been told anywhere from $20,000 to $80,000 to establish and I suspect the same again every few years to have the approaches re-surveyed. Also, to have an RNAV approach the airfield must be either registered or certified, both of which attract a cost. I personally think Councils should cover those costs as a benefit to rate payers and attracting business and tourism to their area. However, a privately owned airfield is a different story because they have to cover their costs or there will be no airfield. Please remember not every airfield is owned by a Council or the Government.
From the Aerodrome Landing Fees Act 2003 (Victoria)
Aircraft means an aircraft registered under Part 3 of the Civil Aviation Regulations.
Thank goodness mine aren't. Nor are any!
Aircraft means an aircraft registered under Part 3 of the Civil Aviation Regulations.
Thank goodness mine aren't. Nor are any!
I dont know what the NSW rules say but the Victorian ones have a few interesting things.
Does this mean that an approach for maintaining proficiency once trained does not attract a fee?
How many aerodromes have advertised their fees in a daily newspaper and the Government Gazette?
"training flight approach", in relation to an aerodrome, means a planned descent to, or in the immediate vicinity of, a runway at the aerodrome, whether or not the aircraft touches the runway, during a flight undertaken for the training or testing of a person as a pilot or member of a flight crew.
(2) If an aerodrome operator fixes a fee under this section, a notice setting out the fee must be published in the Government Gazette and in—
(a) a daily newspaper circulating generally in the State; or
(b) a periodical publication prescribed by the regulations.
(a) a daily newspaper circulating generally in the State; or
(b) a periodical publication prescribed by the regulations.
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