AVDATA landing fees - automatic from CTAF calls?
It’s not “irrelevant detail” to point out that there are no mandatory radio calls at non-controlled aerodromes (except maybe at Port Bloggsland during AFIS hours?).
And when Kaz has had a chance to read all of CAR 166E, I’m confident she’ll qualify her earlier posts somewhat. An aircraft without serviceable VHF can operate at a “CTAF(R)”. That’s one of the many reasons it’s important to keep a good lookout.
It will continue to be important, even if the radius of CTAF procedures is expanded to 20nms.
And when Kaz has had a chance to read all of CAR 166E, I’m confident she’ll qualify her earlier posts somewhat. An aircraft without serviceable VHF can operate at a “CTAF(R)”. That’s one of the many reasons it’s important to keep a good lookout.
It will continue to be important, even if the radius of CTAF procedures is expanded to 20nms.
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Did I miss something in the last round of changes?
Bloggsy, your link didn't work above.
A CTAF (R) is an aerodrome which use of radio and CTAF procedures is mandatory. (Cannot operate in the vicinity of these aerodromes without radio)
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Bloggsy, your link didn't work above.
Possibly for good reason.
Now this is my 10 minute assessment and is definitely not to be relied on. Do your own research and decide how you will respond.
As I read CAR 166E, it only mandates carriage of a serviceable radio in ordinary circumstances (the unserviceable stuff is irrelevant for this discussions).
And it only requires use of that radio where there is risk of collision
CAAP 166-01 at 6.1.1 is in agreement with this interpretation...but it does get a little confused by the end.
The CASA team will be up here for a seminar shortly and I will ask them for their view.
I can't help thinking the risk of collision will go down now that fees are in place!
If anyone can find other references I'd very much appreciate seeing them.
Thanks
Kaz
Something cock-eyed somewhere, SWTT. Anway, here is the post:
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I spent about 45 minutes trolling bunches of websites looking for the information. I appreciate your apology, but there was no need to fire off like a an old grouch at all. For someone who knows, just putting the figure here would have taken less time than what you wrote. So you wasted your own time.
Everyone seems to forget that PPRuNe is like a chat in a pub between mates, nothing more. Such as after an aircraft accident - if 5 pilots were in a pub discussing it and speculating, none of them would do the old "let's wait for the report fellas before speculating." We'd chat about it. Likewise, if 5 of us were in a pub and I said how much does an F/O at Alliance earn, would you turn to me and say look it up on FWA, stop wasting our time? I doubt it. PPRuNe is a pub chat. Lefties not needed here.
And the reason I spent so long on line looking for the answer was because I just knew that if I asked here some twisted and bitter zipperhead would reply just as you did.
I spent about 45 minutes trolling bunches of websites looking for the information. I appreciate your apology, but there was no need to fire off like a an old grouch at all. For someone who knows, just putting the figure here would have taken less time than what you wrote. So you wasted your own time.
Everyone seems to forget that PPRuNe is like a chat in a pub between mates, nothing more. Such as after an aircraft accident - if 5 pilots were in a pub discussing it and speculating, none of them would do the old "let's wait for the report fellas before speculating." We'd chat about it. Likewise, if 5 of us were in a pub and I said how much does an F/O at Alliance earn, would you turn to me and say look it up on FWA, stop wasting our time? I doubt it. PPRuNe is a pub chat. Lefties not needed here.
And the reason I spent so long on line looking for the answer was because I just knew that if I asked here some twisted and bitter zipperhead would reply just as you did.
Well done, Bloggsie! Your select-copy-paste skills are coming along nicely.
Readers would probably be assisted by an explanation of the current in-vicinity rules.
BTW: Have you ever received and had to pay an Avdata bill?
Readers would probably be assisted by an explanation of the current in-vicinity rules.
BTW: Have you ever received and had to pay an Avdata bill?
Have you ever received and had to pay an Avdata bill?
It’s a simple question, the answer to which is either “yes” or “no”. Have you ever received and had to pay an Avdata bill, Cap’n ?
There’s no shame in saying ‘no’. You’ve gone from one cosseted flying regime to another. Nothing wrong with that. Many pilots are rightfully envious of a career that commences in a taxpayer paid career in the ADF and progresses to a Qantas (regional) job.
But the rest of us (taxpayers) don’t have the same privileges.
There’s no shame in saying ‘no’. You’ve gone from one cosseted flying regime to another. Nothing wrong with that. Many pilots are rightfully envious of a career that commences in a taxpayer paid career in the ADF and progresses to a Qantas (regional) job.
But the rest of us (taxpayers) don’t have the same privileges.
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A question Guys, does anyone know who actually owns Avdata?
The company appears to have access to government agencies
data. Do they pay these agencies a fee for this access?
The company appears to have access to government agencies
data. Do they pay these agencies a fee for this access?
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In a world where home invasions and identity theft are common topics in the media, it is alarmed Ng to me that anyone can find out my address and aircraft ownership.
Avdata use that information to put together account details and store the information without my consent which is also a breach of my privacy. Now I wonder if the Council airport owner also provides personal information to Avdata. What an incestuous little relationship it could be!
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The problem is that CASA publishes our personal,details to the world. I think this is a massive breach of the Privacy Act and have complained to them about it.
The problem is that CASA publishes our personal,details to the world. I think this is a massive breach of the Privacy Act and have complained to them about it.
Ditto the ACMA, who publish the details of radiocommunications licence holders.
How this relates to the Privacy Act, I don't know.
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Mixed success. I took a human rights issue to the Full Court of the Federal Court years ago. Lost 2:1 even though I had the Chief Justice. The other two decided to resolve the question without following another Full Court precedent which was a bummer. Ironically, the underlying cause was subsequently dealt with by legislation. Thems the breaks.
On the other hand, I've had some success, for example against Corrections in Victoria who are militaristic and have a very punitive approach to their customers...a bit like CASA, perhaps? 😉
Kaz
Kaz:
Depends on who you define as "customers". My relatives in the justice profession have very mixed views and are frustrated by the system. One applies to the court to get someone locked up and finds him back on the street selling drugs Two days later.
...And don't start me on the Sudanese....
On the other hand, I've had some success, for example against Corrections in Victoria who are militaristic and have a very punitive approach to their customers...a bit like CASA, perhaps? ��
...And don't start me on the Sudanese....
I reckon the avdata way is a lot better than the European system where a pilot has to seek out a person to pay at each airport before departing
And the landing costs are at least double to help pay for the local collector !
And the landing costs are at least double to help pay for the local collector !