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Unique Sir Angus Houston AsA Requirement Will Reduce Safety

Old 3rd Feb 2016, 07:54
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There was no CBA or safety case. The concept was a figment of fancy by a bureaucrat who thought it would deliver a profit to the one shareholder who in this case demonstrated a willingness to be party to the crime. It's a pity nobody is prepared to prosecute the blindingly obvious, but then again most don't have access to the public purse. If they get away with this, VFR will be next forced to comply.
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 11:07
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I am 100% sure that ADSB will be of no benefit to me as I do not fly outside the J curve
Dexta, I fly IFR 100% of the time outside of the J curve (I'm in WA) and although ADSB compliant, I have yet to be ADSB identified or got any benefit from ADSB either.

So if ADSB is of no benefit either in the J curve or outside of it, why have it?
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 12:59
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Well I'll try and keep the argument 2 sided for a bit longer. I'm also WA based and get identified for 95% of the time I'm in the air so it's obviously dependent on where you operate and of course how high.

As I mentioned before there are a few benefits such as direct tracking is much more readily available especially when diverting around weather and the forced upgrading of pathetic GPS units.

Anything to modernise the commercial GA fleet is a good thing. The passengers are starting to realise they are being flown around in aircraft the same age as kingswoods.

If you bought your aircraft 20 odd years ago and were putting money aside to upgrade it as new technology became available then this wouldn't be an issue for you - did you really expect NDBs to be around forever? and if you bought your aircraft recently and it wasn't fitted with the correct equipment then you either saved money or screwed up
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 21:47
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"Anything to modernise the commercial GA fleet is a good thing. The passengers are starting to realise they are being flown around in aircraft the same age as kingswoods".

If the punters were prepared to pay the extra cost of modern equipment we wouldn't be flying 40 year old machinery.
CAsA's costs and requirements hardly encourage people to upgrade either.
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 22:19
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It won't be scud running Dick. My opinion is that there will instead be a lot of "Unofficial" IFR flying by pilots who are allegedly flying VFR.
Absolutely correct!

I have already had a traffic warning from ATC for an opposite direction VFR aircraft at the same level when I was in cloud.

The guys who are talking about upgrading the fleet and increasing safety do not understand the Australian implementation of ADS-B. Because VFR is exempt, any time that VFR and IFR aircraft mix we have the identical separation and safety condition that exists now. Safety is only as good as the weakest link. If we mandate improvements to IFR and not VFR, then nothing changes.

And the guys talking about ADF being redundant clearly have not been through the list of locations where ADF & VOR remain and/or have not flown very far from major cities. The reality is that after the NAVAID closures, ADF will be more useful to many pilots than VOR. We have very definitely retained ADF in our new panel.

Using a factory refurbished 430W our ADSB upgrade (in progress) will end up costing about $40k. It was complicated by a panel relayout to fit the 430 and some autopilot integration issues and we added a a couple of new things which raised the bill by maybe $5k

The GTN proponents should have a look at the prices they bring on ebay compared with 430's. There is only about $1k difference. For my money, its a better IFR GPS than the GTN. And when the 430 dies, we'll slide in an Avidyne IFD440.

Australia is the only country in the world that is mandating ADS-B for all IFR aircraft at all levels in all classes of airspace.
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Old 4th Feb 2016, 08:43
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This is the problem when you have ex military people who have little idea of business costs running both AsA and CASA

It is going to get worse and worse. As I have suggested. Get out of aviation now if you can. Losses will get bigger and bigger as time goes by.

The only food shop at Bankstown has now closed. The writing is on the wall .
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Old 4th Feb 2016, 09:12
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or option b) A slide in replacement of the Garmin transponder with an "all-in-one" unit for approx $7000 but none are available yet for a certified aircraft.
L3 Lynx - not slide into the Garmin tray but will fit in the same space.

It's certified.
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Old 4th Feb 2016, 22:15
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no-one has a friggin clue where you are
We can't even get VHF radio reception across all of Victoria. Anyone who thinks ADS-B is going to give perfect location details anywhere is living in some (to quote Cleaver Green)
Fantastical Jane Austen bullsh#t haze
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Old 5th Feb 2016, 04:30
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The GA pilots you're speaking to don't have to pay for the equipment.
Truth is, many of those CPLs have paid for ADS-B and other unjustified imposts by CASA -- paid with their jobs and careers in aviation in Australia.
Clear thinking & common sense competency standards are not to be found in the Part 61 MOS.
Tootle pip!!
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