AUSFLY 2015 September 4-6, YNRM
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Clarification please
Your program is stating the Air Display is on Friday & Saturday, however, the Flying In Tab on your web page states only on Saturday.
I know some guys from SA who were intending to fly in on Friday considering cancelling their plans to attend if the display is on Friday as well as they will have to hold out somewhere till around 4pm to get in
I know some guys from SA who were intending to fly in on Friday considering cancelling their plans to attend if the display is on Friday as well as they will have to hold out somewhere till around 4pm to get in
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Well spotted
New version with a correction will be uploaded shortly.
There is a TRA both Friday and Saturday, so an early departure in order to get there before say 12.45pm would be a good suggestion.
Or, arrive Thursday, its all for fun!
New version with a correction will be uploaded shortly.
There is a TRA both Friday and Saturday, so an early departure in order to get there before say 12.45pm would be a good suggestion.
Or, arrive Thursday, its all for fun!
Noticed that the program says 1300am etc FYI. Smally typo.
I'm worried about the TRA also, so I'm hoping that the weather lets me out of Melbourne on time. Worst case I can catch it all again on Saturday
It's like Oshkosh, an airshow every day !
I'm worried about the TRA also, so I'm hoping that the weather lets me out of Melbourne on time. Worst case I can catch it all again on Saturday
It's like Oshkosh, an airshow every day !
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Squawky, I saw that too a few weeks back. I was going to comment but thought I should zip it 
Paul Bennet is a air show pilot and performer….not an english teacher.
Cant get from MEL to NRM by 12.45 local? What do you fly
Paul Bennet is a air show pilot and performer….not an english teacher.
Cant get from MEL to NRM by 12.45 local? What do you fly
Cant get from MEL to NRM by 12.45 local? What do you fly
CASA Ramp Checks?
Don't let this deter anyone from flying into the event!
No doubt some CASA people will be at the event in some shape or form! If you aren't doing anything wrong - don't worry.
If you do come across a CASA person at the event by any chance, smash them with your questions!!!!!
No doubt some CASA people will be at the event in some shape or form! If you aren't doing anything wrong - don't worry.
If you do come across a CASA person at the event by any chance, smash them with your questions!!!!!
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I know personally the majority of the CASA guys that will be there, they are all pilots and GA plane nuts, and beside a newbie I have never met, they are all OK folk when it comes to this stuff. Couple of them are always happy chap pies
No big deal, and even if you had an old chart they will just remind you of why charts change and you should keep up to date.
Of course if you blast through the TRA and do a beat up while the Roulettes are on, they might not be as happy as you would like.
Get in and go, this is the only serious national event on the calendar for GA anymore. Support it or lose it.
No big deal, and even if you had an old chart they will just remind you of why charts change and you should keep up to date.
Of course if you blast through the TRA and do a beat up while the Roulettes are on, they might not be as happy as you would like.
Get in and go, this is the only serious national event on the calendar for GA anymore. Support it or lose it.
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Narromine Weather
I am preparing a list of questions which if answered at Ausfly, hopefully will allow me to understand the C of A process, work out which Com radios to buy, sort out the transponder choice, work out if I can get this flying over populous areas, identification markings, POH requirements, maintenance manual choice of words and a whole lot more.
How about put up a few more of your favorites Sunnie - those that will be answering your questions will more than likely see them here, and they can make sure they have the scoop for you, then you'll be one happy camper (pun intended)
By George that's a lot of questions to ask Sunfish. Why not find those answers through the normal channels of SAAA like technical councillors, chapter meetings and the builders C of A pack, and then let those at the event enjoy their weekend away at the airshow?
I did wonder about that myself I must admit, but, I can and will still get Sunnies questions to the right people, in advance. Can't ask for better service than that.
See the AUSFLY workshop program for 0830 Sat Sunnie, and others. Bright eyed and bushy tailed, pencils ready.
See the AUSFLY workshop program for 0830 Sat Sunnie, and others. Bright eyed and bushy tailed, pencils ready.
Folks,
I notice, from a "CASA spokesperson" in the last couple of days, that CASA have refused to confirm OR DENY that they will be conducting ramp checks at Narromine (despite Skidmore's presence ) with particular emphasis on CAR 232 compliance, and CASA's fun new interpretation of same, under which very few private aircraft would comply.
It will be interesting to see what happens, given what CASA did to RAOz several Natflys ago.
Tootle pip!!
I notice, from a "CASA spokesperson" in the last couple of days, that CASA have refused to confirm OR DENY that they will be conducting ramp checks at Narromine (despite Skidmore's presence ) with particular emphasis on CAR 232 compliance, and CASA's fun new interpretation of same, under which very few private aircraft would comply.
It will be interesting to see what happens, given what CASA did to RAOz several Natflys ago.
Tootle pip!!
Hold the phone a moment, please don't try frighten off people from flying in there.
Before even looking at what CAR 232 is, look at where it comes from.
CAR 1988, Vol 3, Part 14 - Air Service Operations.
Private aircraft do not conduct commercial air service operations.
Case closed.
Flyers should expect CASA ramp checks at such an event, but if you have all your ducks in a row, should be no problem! The basics are
Licence or pilot certificate valid.
Medical cert if required.
Registration, maintenance release (if required).
Current charts and ERSA available - paper or electronic.
Before even looking at what CAR 232 is, look at where it comes from.
CAR 1988, Vol 3, Part 14 - Air Service Operations.
Private aircraft do not conduct commercial air service operations.
Case closed.
Flyers should expect CASA ramp checks at such an event, but if you have all your ducks in a row, should be no problem! The basics are
Licence or pilot certificate valid.
Medical cert if required.
Registration, maintenance release (if required).
Current charts and ERSA available - paper or electronic.
In the same part 14 is:
209 Private operations
(1) The operator and the pilot in command of an aircraft engaged in private operations shall comply with the provisions of these Regulations and such additional conditions as CASA from time to time directs in the interest of safety ...
(1) The operator and the pilot in command of an aircraft engaged in private operations shall comply with the provisions of these Regulations and such additional conditions as CASA from time to time directs in the interest of safety ...
Gee thunderbird five, in that case CARs 233 and 234 don't apply to private operations either.
The word "commercial" is not in the heading of Part 14.
There are Divisions within Parts. One of the Divisions within Part 14 is headed "Requirements to ensure the safety of commercial operations".
Another Division within Part 4 is headed "Conduct of operations".
CAR 232 is within the latter (as are CARs 233 and 234).
And CASA disagrees with you.
If you think that CAR 232 applies only to commercial operations, you're in for a rude shock. But give it a go and let us know how you go. They'll always ask for evidence of carriage of current charts, info etc, as you say. That obligation is in CAR 233, which is, as I say, also in Part 14.
The word "commercial" is not in the heading of Part 14.
There are Divisions within Parts. One of the Divisions within Part 14 is headed "Requirements to ensure the safety of commercial operations".
Another Division within Part 4 is headed "Conduct of operations".
CAR 232 is within the latter (as are CARs 233 and 234).
And CASA disagrees with you.
If you think that CAR 232 applies only to commercial operations, you're in for a rude shock. But give it a go and let us know how you go. They'll always ask for evidence of carriage of current charts, info etc, as you say. That obligation is in CAR 233, which is, as I say, also in Part 14.
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Guys…..this is not a thread about CAR's. What is dumb and what is not.
I spoke with two of the four CASA folk who will be there, at another event today. They are both good guys. Nothing to fear at all. Strong GA backgrounds and big on education not belting you with a rule book.
Do the right thing, no big deal.
CASA are big part of making this event possible. They want it to succeed. And yes Mr Skidmore is quite keen to get out there among the people.
I am all for sticking it to them when deserved, but this is not when. Have a good weekend, enjoy the sights, have a great time seeing your friends from around the country….make new ones.
Make it a positive in a world of GA negativity.
I spoke with two of the four CASA folk who will be there, at another event today. They are both good guys. Nothing to fear at all. Strong GA backgrounds and big on education not belting you with a rule book.
Do the right thing, no big deal.
CASA are big part of making this event possible. They want it to succeed. And yes Mr Skidmore is quite keen to get out there among the people.
I am all for sticking it to them when deserved, but this is not when. Have a good weekend, enjoy the sights, have a great time seeing your friends from around the country….make new ones.
Make it a positive in a world of GA negativity.
Jaba,
I certainly hope you are correct, but the level of mistrust of CASA is hardly surprising. After all, the original tip came from within CASA.
Thunderbird 5,
Stick to cartoon games, where facts are optional and ignorance is bliss.
Tootle pip!!
I certainly hope you are correct, but the level of mistrust of CASA is hardly surprising. After all, the original tip came from within CASA.
Thunderbird 5,
Stick to cartoon games, where facts are optional and ignorance is bliss.
Tootle pip!!