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VH Baron Interception Indonesia

Old 22nd Oct 2014, 07:17
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VH Baron Interception Indonesia

Looks like our friendly neighbours got a bit of a fright by a wandering Baron.

Wonder what forms could have been overlooked or misplaced and by who.

Geez it'd be a fascinating image of two Sukhoi's tailing a Baron!

Indonesian air force intercepts Australian plane
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 07:47
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I wonder how much the "fine" will be?

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 08:30
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Hmmm..

Tricky Dicky at it again!
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 08:36
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kimwestt, do tell. Has he done this before?
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 09:12
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Dunno about Mr Melream Pty Ltd but I am very very surprised to see Jacko's name involved - as I am sure everyone who knows him will be.

I have flown with Jacko over the Indian ocean and the Pacific and on a ferry job he is the picture of calm.

Hope all goes well for them both.
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Intercept




They are just trying out the new Fighters ... it will be a hand shake, so sorry and have a nice flight !
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 10:04
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Oz aircraft forced to land in Manado for trespassing | The Jakarta Post
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 11:14
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Fines !!

Anyone that knows the owner of the aircraft won't be happy about paying any " fines "
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With a new President elected there last week vowing to play hard ball with Australian naval incursions, I am sure they will get more than a slap on the wrist.
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 11:42
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A few pics

Indonesian jets ?force Australian plane to land?
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 11:58
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Appears to be VH-RLS
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 12:26
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I've flown turbo-prop RPT a number of times from Kupang to Sulawesi and below FL200, you'd be well out of any civilian radar coverage.

If they flew a direct route from Kupang to Manado, at below 10,000 ft, they would have been well clear of civilian secondary surveillance radar all the way until about 70 miles from Manado.

I'm actually surprised Indonesian radar picked them up at all, considering they let a B777 fly through without detection a few months ago.
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Ohhh Richard - you naughty man! Still love ya though!

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Old 23rd Oct 2014, 06:59
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Surprised to see Jacko involved..YES
Happy absolutely, well almost because there was no mention of jail time.
Obviously you and I have seen different sides
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So have they been given the go ahead to continue - or are they still being detained?

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Is that the same Jacko from P$l air?
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Old 23rd Oct 2014, 10:13
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Pay a $6k fine,get 3 different clearances to leave

http://www.smh.com.au/world/australi...23-11avk7.html

'Beechworth' aircraft
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Shame they aren't as diligent with the 'asylum seekers' arriving every day
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"Fine" $5700 - cash only

All is forgiven, typical over there
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From the Sydney Morning Herald today

From the Sydney Morning Herald today

"Indonesian fighter jet pilots had "locked on" their weapon systems to an Australian light plane on Wednesday before its pilots decided to comply with the order to land, one of the air force pilots has said.

Indonesian pilot Major Wanda Suriansyah was quoted in news portal Tempo.co as saying the two Sukhoi fighters had engaged their weapons systems and taken aim at the Australians.

"If there had been a command to shoot, I would immediately have shot it down, but thank God the pilot was apparently scared and decided to land the plane in Manado," Major Wanda said.

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The dramatic mid-air chase on Wednesday morning came after radars detected a light plane, flown by Australians Richard Wayne Maclean and Graeme Paul Jacklin, in Indonesian air space without papers or clearance to be there.

They were delivering the plane to its new owner in the Philippines.

Major Wanda said the Sukhoi fighters had scrambled from Makassar in south Sulawesi, before escorting the Australian plane for four hours as it flew over Kupang and Ambon.

He said the first request to land was made as the Beechworth aircraft was over Ambon.

"But some Australians are stubborn so they ignored the request," he said.

Eventually the plane was forced to land in the Sam Ratulangi airport in Manado. The air force base commander, Hesly Paath, also alleged that the Australians originally ignored orders to stop...."

This is how it is meant to work.

Military radar is meant to pick up un-identified unauthorised aircraft and scramble aircraft to intercept, and identify.

Military radar is designed to pick up aircraft flying dark without transponders. That's the whole point.

Why didn't the military radar of Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore, India, the USA at D Garcia and Australia not pick up, not react, not intercept a massive target the size of MH370 but they did with a light aircraft.

It beggars belief.

One or perhaps all of these countries must have seen it. They just aren't about to tell us. The question is why?
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