Ramp Check Advice From CASA.
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Aviation D+A testing laws have been a perfect experiment that has proved the level of micro-regulation is unnecessary. Untold millions in establishing and administering the testing regime, and the number of people caught being countable on the fingers of one hand.
.now if we could just get the buggers to stop churning them out for a sec...
Have you noticed Clive Palmer has justified not bothering to turn up to Parliament, because the Abbott Government is not presenting enough legislation each day.
Great news, and a change from the last Labor Government, that prided itself on overachieving record levels of new legislation.
The first of the promised "repeal" days is coming up, but I guess the Labor and the Watermelons in the Senate will ritually block any repeal bills.
It's just very different than the US. So I was making sure I didn't misunderstand what goes on.
Tootle pip!!
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But don't worry, this testing only occurs between the hours of 9-5, Monday to Friday. Penalty rates are too high to provide 24-7 coverage.
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"At lest we don't have the stormtroopers (very heavily armed) of the ATF and Homeland Security descending on us at random all over the US"
Dunno about that leadie,
Got off a Sydney Perth flight one morning and wondered what the hold up was disembarking.
When I finally got to the air bridge, all I could hear was the screams of children and passengers single file against one side of the air bridge while a bunch of shaven headed, no neck, paramilitary thugs, armed to the teeth strutted up and down the line with slobbering dogs at eye level with the kids, who were terrified.
Old fella in front of me muttered "Did we miss Perth and end up in North Korea?"
Dunno about that leadie,
Got off a Sydney Perth flight one morning and wondered what the hold up was disembarking.
When I finally got to the air bridge, all I could hear was the screams of children and passengers single file against one side of the air bridge while a bunch of shaven headed, no neck, paramilitary thugs, armed to the teeth strutted up and down the line with slobbering dogs at eye level with the kids, who were terrified.
Old fella in front of me muttered "Did we miss Perth and end up in North Korea?"
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For what it's worth, the FAA here doesn't require random drug and alcohol testing of private pilots. And would likely (hopefully) be prevented from such by the fifth amendment protections against unreasonable search. Even when the police are running "safety inspection" roadblocks on the highway, I don't believe that they are able to demand an alcohol test without some element of reasonable suspicion, or probable cause.
That said, of course we've obviously come up withe some sort of rationalization which stands up in the courts to circumvent the fifth amendment in the case of pilots employed by common carriers.
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Squared, you can be random breath tested on the roads here, anywhere, anytime. No probable cause or suspicion required. Random licence and registration checks, they don't have to have a reason to pull you over. Anyone involved in aviation can be random breath & drug checked, check in counter, baggage handler, mechanic. I've been drug & alcohol tested 3 times in the last 9 months (between the hours of 9-5, believe it not!).
Been D & A tested twice well before "normal" business hours and at least three hours drive away from the major city. Guess they knew our schedule!
Other than those tests, only been ramp checked twice in 32 years.
Other than those tests, only been ramp checked twice in 32 years.
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Ramp Checked
Running up approx 200 hrs early on per yr found about 4 ramp checks over say 4 years. Had the basics as required on board, ie license, medical, mr, poh, some maps to cover our intended route, plenty of gas.
Never had an issue with any of the inspectors, very fair and not looking to ping us for trivial issues.
Had one drug and alcohol tester run out from behind the toilets at another lic airport ( vic ) and test the pic, nice guy no drama again.
Even at the air show last year we felt they were more than fair. Just doing a job.
Never had an issue with any of the inspectors, very fair and not looking to ping us for trivial issues.
Had one drug and alcohol tester run out from behind the toilets at another lic airport ( vic ) and test the pic, nice guy no drama again.
Even at the air show last year we felt they were more than fair. Just doing a job.