Engine Management Course
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Its why you often see intake runners that curve on top of the engine.
Isn't that pretty much what Continental have done with their IO 520 P engine ? Just wondering if that's what you're referring to.
Cheers RA
Isn't that pretty much what Continental have done with their IO 520 P engine
But if you look at the engine I know best - TSIO 360, its inlet manifold looks like something a plumber would make using scrap exhaust pipe.
The paper by Ratcliffe & Rogers says that inlet air passing the runners sucks atomised fuel out of one inlet runner and pushes it onto the next. You can absolutely imagine that happening with the stubby little tubes on the TSIO 360. The IO 520 (where GAMI made its name) looks pretty similar to the TSIO / IO 360.
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Creampie, yep, it pretty much is the lawyers fault, whom else's fault would it be?
GAMI Injectors 
They rarely have induction/injection systems that result in all cylinders reaching peak on the lean curve at the same point during the leaning process.
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Apologies to John Deakin, I blame it on a late and very cold night after a long day here in Beijing.
As one poster has noted, forced induction does not solve the problem of lousy intake design,
On that subject, if the FAA will just get out of the way, he'll have a real winner! It will mix well with 100LL, you can fill your storage tank or your airplane with any mix of G100UL and 100LL. It has slightly better performance, and is slightly heavier, a wash. Smells good, too!
(Disclaimer: I am not associated with GAMI, TAT in any way, beyond friendship. George Braly, Walter Atkinson and I are principals in APS.)
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Welcome to the pprune in the pacific JD 
6-7 years and this is your first post!
Folks if you want to take the course and meet John and Walter, the opportunities are getting slimmer. So book in ASAP. Melbourne is almost half booked out already and the Brisbane one is getting close to 70% booked.
Remember if you fly a piston aircraft, understanding the engine, its operation and how to use any engine instruments to monitor, diagnose and thus manage the engine over its life are things you have not been taught in any training school so far. Some of what we are taught is plain wrong.
The payback on this course is really fast. Don't miss it. Your wallet and your safety are the benefactors here. Several thousand pilots in the USA and not one has asked for their money back!
Pleasing to see several commercial operators and LAME's have booked in too.
6-7 years and this is your first post!Folks if you want to take the course and meet John and Walter, the opportunities are getting slimmer. So book in ASAP. Melbourne is almost half booked out already and the Brisbane one is getting close to 70% booked.
Remember if you fly a piston aircraft, understanding the engine, its operation and how to use any engine instruments to monitor, diagnose and thus manage the engine over its life are things you have not been taught in any training school so far. Some of what we are taught is plain wrong.
The payback on this course is really fast. Don't miss it. Your wallet and your safety are the benefactors here. Several thousand pilots in the USA and not one has asked for their money back!
Pleasing to see several commercial operators and LAME's have booked in too.
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Jack, you crack me up!
No need to buy an APS shirt, there are plenty of APS shirts with the famous combustion curves on them which are awarded for best questions and answers.
No doubt you will be in the winners circle! All part of the fun.
No need to buy an APS shirt, there are plenty of APS shirts with the famous combustion curves on them which are awarded for best questions and answers.
No doubt you will be in the winners circle! All part of the fun.
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Only a week before we embark upon the aluminum tube of death in challenge of the Pacific to come see you blokes.
Looking forward to it.
I'll be looking for some good references from my new friends on the best Aussie beer while we're there... and no, I don't think it'll be "Fosters."
Looking forward to it.
I'll be looking for some good references from my new friends on the best Aussie beer while we're there... and no, I don't think it'll be "Fosters."
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Walter, some of the best beers come out of the States
I have been testing beers for the last 30 years & will have a taster pack ready for you in Mel-born
Have a great trip & don't forget to look right when you cross the road out here
I have been testing beers for the last 30 years & will have a taster pack ready for you in Mel-born
Have a great trip & don't forget to look right when you cross the road out here
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I run ROP when appropriate and LOP when appropriate, so I'm flexible!
That "look right" is gonna be a tough one--I think I'll let an Aussie drive!
Looking forward to the taster pack.
That "look right" is gonna be a tough one--I think I'll let an Aussie drive!
Looking forward to the taster pack.
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Forkie does have a point. Mr Atkinson does appreciate an Ord River Rum, which I am out of 
Perhaps you should bring some Barra down for the BBQ Forkie?
Perhaps you should bring some Barra down for the BBQ Forkie?
Forkie does have a point. Mr Atkinson does appreciate an Ord River Rum, which I am out of 
Perhaps you should bring some Barra down for the BBQ Forkie?
Perhaps you should bring some Barra down for the BBQ Forkie?
I couldn't catch one to save my life ATM!
40+ x legals boated in each of 2011 and 2012 vs 3 x legals for 2013, to date!
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Jabba
Damm you Jabba sucking me into this course. My game plan was to blitz the introductory test , scalp my ticket and retire to the nearest pub for 3 days while Mrs RA waited at home believing I was improving my mind. As it turned out I got 3 wrong 88% so now I have to attend tail between my legs.
Tip for procrastinators like me--write down your answers on a piece of paper so when you get one wrong you don't have to wrack your brain what you thought er worked out was the answer after you see the correct one. See ya all at CAB if for no other reason than to test the octane rating of the local brew.
Cheers RA
Damm you Jabba sucking me into this course. My game plan was to blitz the introductory test , scalp my ticket and retire to the nearest pub for 3 days while Mrs RA waited at home believing I was improving my mind. As it turned out I got 3 wrong 88% so now I have to attend tail between my legs.
Tip for procrastinators like me--write down your answers on a piece of paper so when you get one wrong you don't have to wrack your brain what you thought er worked out was the answer after you see the correct one. See ya all at CAB if for no other reason than to test the octane rating of the local brew.
Cheers RA
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Mrs Jaba can attest to getting that score! 
Actually you have done very well indeed. Far above the average.
Beer/Rum testing 201 is the subject schedule for 6pm Saturday.
Actually you have done very well indeed. Far above the average.
Beer/Rum testing 201 is the subject schedule for 6pm Saturday.