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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 03:38
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Geelong seaplane down

Just got word of a seaplane down near AV in the water 3 POB? anyone with more details?
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Brief report in Geelong Advertiser:

Margera plane crashes on arrival | Geelong, VIC, Australia
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Jackass star Bam Margera... wonder if they have some footage.

Edit: I do realise he wasn't actually on the aircraft, he was no doubt watching it which would have made for a great stunt if they were filming it.

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Surely some Gopro stuff
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Apparently it was sighted over the city with the wheels down just moments before it happened.
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This seems to be the one (only from down there memory?)

JetPhotos.Net Photo » VH-UBI (CN: U20602051) Private Cessna U206F Stationair 6 by Lukas M

Still trying to picture the following...

Witnesses said they saw the plane drop from the sky, landing on its nose before flipping on its side.

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@Vincent Chase - Stupid speculation is what Pprune does best.
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Has anyone got the Avalon TAF for today including wave conditions?

This seems to be the one (only from down there memory?)

JetPhotos.Net Photo » VH-UBI (CN: U20602051) Private Cessna U206F Stationair 6 by Lukas M
Hmmm... it looks ok in the photos?

I eagerly await the findings of the ATSB report.

I'm sure if I was flying I would have done it differently.

I wonder how the pilot and passengers felt at the time of the incident.

I hope they got out of it and recover quickly god bless.

Probably a wing-drop stall followed by a nose-over.

How did I go, did I miss anything?

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Just a observation, i assume the gear on the floats are meant to be retracted for landing on water? Could having these extended cause it to flip on landing?

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Just saw that on the news a few moments ago. The main wheels are extended as it sits inverted. Doesn't explain why it fell out of the sky though
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Pic on the news online does look like the wheels are down, (or since it has turned turtle - the wheels are pointing up ) which could explain how it ended up upside down. Woopsies
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RE...How did I go, did I miss anything?

whaddya reckon..??



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Yep this pic seem to show the wheels are down or in this case up...Occupants escape serious injury in seaplane crash - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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yes i think x may have missed something
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Hey Vincent,

I'm fairly sure we all feel 'sorry' for the PIC, but......

There is a 'check' to be performed prior to landing....??

Some do, and some don't, which one would you like to be..??

Not being facetious, or sarcastic, just stating the facts.

Sad really...
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Here comes rsole and the fat lady with their Barwon Heads conspiracy theories on what happened, this WILL be good.

Admittedly for an aircraft that operates primarily off the water it does seem a little strange for the wheels to be down... but I wasn't there and I don't know where it took off from.

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VH-XXX, you forgot to mention Crab Pots..
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I have heard from a reliable source the pilot was fairly low time on floats (and not the owner/operator). Apparently the pilot had flown the aircraft to Barwon Heads to refuel (with a normal wheels down runway landing) and then flew back to Geelong to land on the water. The owner/operator of the aircraft was standing on the beach and watched the aircraft approaching with wheels down but had no handheld VHF radio so couldn't alert the pilot.

As a seaplane pilot of an amphibious machine one needs to do the "wheels up for a water landing" numerous times prior to touch down with both a panel lights check and an external visual check via the mirrors. I've always done the first confirmation on the downwind circuit leg along with the normal pre-landing checks. Then a FUP check turning final (Flaps full, Undercarriage up for the water landing, Prop full fine) and then just prior to touch down saying out loud "This is a water landing so the gear is up!"

This is so unfortunate but also so unnecessary too. It's the number one reason amphibious aircraft end up upside down and how it continues to happen with the various You_tube videos showing how easily the error can be made just amazes me.

My best wishes to the pilot and the owner/operator. Lots of challenges to get through as a result of this avoidable accident.

Ren

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Whats that saying ...there but for the grace of god go i.



One of those youtube vids. Its all over quick...

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I have heard from a reliable source the pilot was fairly low time on floats (and not the owner/operator)
That figure is rumoured to be 40 hours... still no excuse as we all know.
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