Geelong seaplane down
Being a lowtime amphib pilot would be an advantage!
You've just finished your training and it is fresh in your mind!
It's the guys who have seen around the block a few times!.... Now they are the ones that usually stuff up!
EG. The old Baron pilot with thousands of hours.
When asked by CASA about his wheels up landing, and expecting some BS answer..
"Well what happened?" says Mr CASA.
He answers... "Well, I just plain forgot to put the wheels down!"
Well that stuffed 'em!
You've just finished your training and it is fresh in your mind!
It's the guys who have seen around the block a few times!.... Now they are the ones that usually stuff up!
EG. The old Baron pilot with thousands of hours.
When asked by CASA about his wheels up landing, and expecting some BS answer..
"Well what happened?" says Mr CASA.
He answers... "Well, I just plain forgot to put the wheels down!"
Well that stuffed 'em!
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Yeah, perhaps true Capt Fathom. It's the discipline of the pre landing checks (and confirmation they've been properly done when you get interrupted half way through) as an absolute unforgettable habit that's the only way you can avoid this type of accident. That's not to say I couldn't make this mistake though.
This one is an example of (I believe) a very experienced ATPL who fell into the classic trap of the "three green, good to land" mantra that had probably been permanently etched into his neurons for land based ops.
This one is an example of (I believe) a very experienced ATPL who fell into the classic trap of the "three green, good to land" mantra that had probably been permanently etched into his neurons for land based ops.
This sort of thing reminds me of the old 'Warrie' told to me by a WW2 Sunderland capt...
Believe it or not....
A 'new sprog' was being checked to the squadron, in the Sunderland, and started a perfect to the adjacent land aerodrome, when he got the red flare from the tower and suddenly realised his mistake, and 'went around'....
To do an almost perfect approach onto the water landing area nearby.
He 'buttoned up' the aeroplane and was still laughing as he stepped out, missed the launch, and in all his heavy gear, drowned.
That's sad.
Believe it or not....
A 'new sprog' was being checked to the squadron, in the Sunderland, and started a perfect to the adjacent land aerodrome, when he got the red flare from the tower and suddenly realised his mistake, and 'went around'....
To do an almost perfect approach onto the water landing area nearby.
He 'buttoned up' the aeroplane and was still laughing as he stepped out, missed the launch, and in all his heavy gear, drowned.
That's sad.
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I won't mention this one to the old man – he'll just shake his grizzled head, take a measured pull from his pint and growl his favourite mantra; "there's them as wot's done it and them wot's gunna be a doin' it.
Who's next up?
Who's next up?
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He answers... "Well, I just plain forgot to put the wheels down!"
Cop: Morning Sir, do you know why I have stopped you today?
Me: Fair chance it was because I was doing 120 Km/h
Cop: Thats right Sir You were doing 120 Km/h, do you have any reason you were exceeding the speed limit by 20Km/h?
Me: Nope!
Cop: Take it easy and have a nice day.
No ticket, a 3 minute lecture on how speed kills and I was on my way, sometimes honesty is the best policy ....
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nope paul...i know my screen aint the ducks nutz, but in the very first pic, the top blade is clearly bent forward.
I'd say the donk is screwed also, gut full of water whilst running generates a sudden stop situation that results in what is probably a lack of change over core.
I'd say the donk is screwed also, gut full of water whilst running generates a sudden stop situation that results in what is probably a lack of change over core.
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if they were really lucky, the drag of pushing an aircraft prop through water would have been enough to stall the engine before it got a cylinder full of water. 
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Mickjoebill, the second one, as you can see in the YouTube videos as soon as the nose wheels grab, over she goes.
Water can't really get into the floats just with the gear down, otherwise it would make it very difficult trying to drive an amphib in and out of the water!
If it is already upside down though, the water will just come through the inspection covers on the top of the floats and then it will sink!
Water can't really get into the floats just with the gear down, otherwise it would make it very difficult trying to drive an amphib in and out of the water!
If it is already upside down though, the water will just come through the inspection covers on the top of the floats and then it will sink!
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Went to university with the Pilot. Overall a good bloke. Just a sad case of lack of experience combined with being over confident. Us pilots are known to have large egos... apparently! 
Lets just be happy all were relatively unhurt and hope the mental and confidence scars heal quickly. 
Lets just be happy all were relatively unhurt and hope the mental and confidence scars heal quickly.
There is no shortage of float pilots in oz who love flying floats with over 10,000 incident fee Anphib water landings, just can't live on $36,000 what these "turd" operators offered. 
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Seaplane down in Geelong
I know the operator very well, he has been operating for more than 6 years and has done so without incident. He prided himself on his safety record and the safety of his passengers always comes first. It was very upsetting for everybody that was involved, but it was good to hear that nobody was seriously hurt. I personally hope that all involved can recover from this and people continue to fly with this company. 
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I'm fairly sure we all feel 'sorry' for the PIC, but......
There is a 'check' to be performed prior to landing....??
There is a 'check' to be performed prior to landing....??
