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Blank 22nd Jan 2013 03:38

Geelong seaplane down
 
Just got word of a seaplane down near AV in the water 3 POB? anyone with more details?

triton140 22nd Jan 2013 04:00

Brief report in Geelong Advertiser:

Margera plane crashes on arrival | Geelong, VIC, Australia

VH-XXX 22nd Jan 2013 04:05

Jackass star Bam Margera... wonder if they have some footage.

Edit: I do realise he wasn't actually on the aircraft, he was no doubt watching it which would have made for a great stunt if they were filming it.

Jack Ranga 22nd Jan 2013 04:08

Surely some Gopro stuff :E

DH164 22nd Jan 2013 04:09

Apparently it was sighted over the city with the wheels down just moments before it happened.

wheels_down 22nd Jan 2013 04:40

This seems to be the one (only from down there memory?)

JetPhotos.Net Photo » VH-UBI (CN: U20602051) Private Cessna U206F Stationair 6 by Lukas M

Still trying to picture the following...:D


Witnesses said they saw the plane drop from the sky, landing on its nose before flipping on its side.

peterc005 22nd Jan 2013 05:10

@Vincent Chase - Stupid speculation is what Pprune does best.

VH-XXX 22nd Jan 2013 05:23

Has anyone got the Avalon TAF for today including wave conditions?


This seems to be the one (only from down there memory?)

JetPhotos.Net Photo » VH-UBI (CN: U20602051) Private Cessna U206F Stationair 6 by Lukas M
Hmmm... it looks ok in the photos?

I eagerly await the findings of the ATSB report.

I'm sure if I was flying I would have done it differently.

I wonder how the pilot and passengers felt at the time of the incident.

I hope they got out of it and recover quickly god bless.

Probably a wing-drop stall followed by a nose-over.

How did I go, did I miss anything?

satmstr 22nd Jan 2013 05:57

Just a observation, i assume the gear on the floats are meant to be retracted for landing on water? Could having these extended cause it to flip on landing?

VH-XXX 22nd Jan 2013 06:04

Just saw that on the news a few moments ago. The main wheels are extended as it sits inverted. Doesn't explain why it fell out of the sky though :D

goin'flyin 22nd Jan 2013 06:15

Pic on the news online does look like the wheels are down, (or since it has turned turtle - the wheels are pointing up :}) which could explain how it ended up upside down. Woopsies :uhoh:

Ex FSO GRIFFO 22nd Jan 2013 07:13

RE...How did I go, did I miss anything?

whaddya reckon..??

:uhoh:

Cheers:ok:

Sarcs 22nd Jan 2013 07:25

Yep this pic seem to show the wheels are down or in this case up...Occupants escape serious injury in seaplane crash - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

r sole 22nd Jan 2013 07:48

yes i think x may have missed something:O

Ex FSO GRIFFO 22nd Jan 2013 08:25

Hey Vincent,

I'm fairly sure we all feel 'sorry' for the PIC, but......

There is a 'check' to be performed prior to landing....??

Some do, and some don't, which one would you like to be..??

Not being facetious, or sarcastic, just stating the facts.

Sad really...:{

VH-XXX 22nd Jan 2013 08:27

Here comes rsole and the fat lady with their Barwon Heads conspiracy theories on what happened, this WILL be good.

Admittedly for an aircraft that operates primarily off the water it does seem a little strange for the wheels to be down... but I wasn't there and I don't know where it took off from.

Ixixly 22nd Jan 2013 08:42

VH-XXX, you forgot to mention Crab Pots..

RenegadeMan 22nd Jan 2013 09:04

I have heard from a reliable source the pilot was fairly low time on floats (and not the owner/operator). Apparently the pilot had flown the aircraft to Barwon Heads to refuel (with a normal wheels down runway landing) and then flew back to Geelong to land on the water. The owner/operator of the aircraft was standing on the beach and watched the aircraft approaching with wheels down but had no handheld VHF radio so couldn't alert the pilot.

As a seaplane pilot of an amphibious machine one needs to do the "wheels up for a water landing" numerous times prior to touch down with both a panel lights check and an external visual check via the mirrors. I've always done the first confirmation on the downwind circuit leg along with the normal pre-landing checks. Then a FUP check turning final (Flaps full, Undercarriage up for the water landing, Prop full fine) and then just prior to touch down saying out loud "This is a water landing so the gear is up!"

This is so unfortunate but also so unnecessary too. It's the number one reason amphibious aircraft end up upside down and how it continues to happen with the various You_tube videos showing how easily the error can be made just amazes me. :ugh:

My best wishes to the pilot and the owner/operator. Lots of challenges to get through as a result of this avoidable accident.

Ren

Flying Binghi 22nd Jan 2013 09:20

Whats that saying ...there but for the grace of god go i.



One of those youtube vids. Its all over quick...


VH-XXX 22nd Jan 2013 09:29


I have heard from a reliable source the pilot was fairly low time on floats (and not the owner/operator)
That figure is rumoured to be 40 hours... still no excuse as we all know.


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