CASA Suspends Barrier Aviation Operations
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Ouch, the ole knifing your previous employer rumour.
A cautionary tale:
Heard a story, can not confirm its veracity, where an ex-employee went to the CAA, signed statements and went to court against a previous employer.
When the nature of the relationship between the company and ex-employee became apparent to the court, I believe the case was thrown out.
Confidential is only confidential until you are required to appear in Court, then everyone knows who you are.
I doubt very much that the ex-employee was ever able to find another job flying.
I hope its not true.
A cautionary tale:
Heard a story, can not confirm its veracity, where an ex-employee went to the CAA, signed statements and went to court against a previous employer.
When the nature of the relationship between the company and ex-employee became apparent to the court, I believe the case was thrown out.
Confidential is only confidential until you are required to appear in Court, then everyone knows who you are.
I doubt very much that the ex-employee was ever able to find another job flying.
I hope its not true.
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Is it not the case that CASA will not act on the words of a disgruntled ex-employee as they maintain that the person should have approached them when they were first aware of the misdeeds of their employer, not after they had been dismissed?
It does tend to reduce the value of any testimony they may give.
It does tend to reduce the value of any testimony they may give.
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Where did beaver_rotate's post Sh!tcanning Barrier, go?
I thought you wanted the Cairns Post to quote you.
Not so tough now eh big guy?
I thought you wanted the Cairns Post to quote you.
Not so tough now eh big guy?
Last edited by Trent 972; 25th Dec 2012 at 10:39.
All the while the rumour running around FNQ has this being all based on the ramblings of a not so recently sacked employee, one who is having trouble finding another flying job.
CASA's administrative action is a form of economic regulation - or financial strangulation. Ground the b@stards without trial long enough to break them financially!
I think every operator in the Torres Strait over twenty or thirty years since Thorpe's Air Taxis has either been killed off by CASA or left in disgust.
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Lets be honest, what would acause CASA to ground an operator?
- Someone makes a complaint perhaps
- CASA investigate with some firm leads on where to focus perhaps
- Issues are found
- CASA take action and if bad enough, shut 'em down
Pretty simple really! In the end it doesn't really matter who dobbed on them if enough serious issues are found....
- Someone makes a complaint perhaps
- CASA investigate with some firm leads on where to focus perhaps
- Issues are found
- CASA take action and if bad enough, shut 'em down
Pretty simple really! In the end it doesn't really matter who dobbed on them if enough serious issues are found....
Trent 972:
Beaver Rotate suddenly realized that a simple perusal by CASA of Barriers records of exactly who has done a MECIR on which aircraft together with the dates and associated MR will reveal the truth of his allegation and also his name. Barrier can do the same.
It is then up to CASA if they decide to prosecute Mr. Beaver, thus instilling into every GA employee even more "double binds". Considering that they will destroy a career on the evidence of a Youtube video, I would think that CASA may indeed act.
Double Bind A - do something dodgy or get fired by the boss.
Double Bind B - See something dodgy and shut up about it to avoid getting fired and get prosecuted by CASA instead if they find out that you saw something and didnt tell them.
WIth a little more work in spreading fear,uncertainty and doubt, every licenced employee of every GA outfit can be turned into a CASA stool pigeon. What a recipe for industrial harmony.
Where did beaver_rotate's post Sh!tcanning Barrier, go?
I thought you wanted the Cairns Post to quote you.
Not so tough now eh big guy?
I thought you wanted the Cairns Post to quote you.
Not so tough now eh big guy?
It is then up to CASA if they decide to prosecute Mr. Beaver, thus instilling into every GA employee even more "double binds". Considering that they will destroy a career on the evidence of a Youtube video, I would think that CASA may indeed act.
Double Bind A - do something dodgy or get fired by the boss.
Double Bind B - See something dodgy and shut up about it to avoid getting fired and get prosecuted by CASA instead if they find out that you saw something and didnt tell them.
WIth a little more work in spreading fear,uncertainty and doubt, every licenced employee of every GA outfit can be turned into a CASA stool pigeon. What a recipe for industrial harmony.
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No Barrier to safety in North Queensland skies
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One point worth mention here, DK, the owner and Chief Pilot has owned and operated aircraft in FNQ for the best part of thirty (30) years, he has also been an ATO for at least ten + years.
= Frog excrement.
I'm glad beaver_rotate had the good sense to remove his/her post.
barrier poses a serious and imminent risk to air safety
I'm glad beaver_rotate had the good sense to remove his/her post.
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Interesting to note that their solicitor has confirmed that this action by CASA will impact on shipping pilots! My understanding is that they usually move one or two at a time, as do magistrate and quarantine etc. does this also mean they are selling individual seats on the "charter" flights they run up there?
Might be something else for CASA to look into!
Might be something else for CASA to look into!
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Sad to hear that this has happen at such a bad time, I wish everyone effected by CASA's decision all the best for the future.
Barrier Aviation and the now defunct Falcon Airways, was there a connection in between both these companies? Someone mentioned something in a earlier post.
Barrier Aviation and the now defunct Falcon Airways, was there a connection in between both these companies? Someone mentioned something in a earlier post.
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Arm out the window ...
Said aircraft are BN2 type ... 
What sort of 'serious and known defects' are they talking about, is anyone in a position to say?
There is no doubt the regulator must act when there is good evidence of a breach of the rules.
However why is it theses breaches always seem to come to a head on a Friday afternoon or at a time when any grounding is going to have maximum financial impact for the company concerned. It doesn't give the "accused" a fair chance to defend their position. There's always two sides to every story.
With the over sight the regulator is supposed to be carrying out how can things get so bad so quickly that the operation needs to be shut down immediately? Surely there must be ongoing issues bubbling away prior to the complete shutdown, and deficiencies that haven't been addressed within a given time frame. Are some operators so hopeless they cannot get their stuff sorted or is the regulator trigger happy?
However why is it theses breaches always seem to come to a head on a Friday afternoon or at a time when any grounding is going to have maximum financial impact for the company concerned. It doesn't give the "accused" a fair chance to defend their position. There's always two sides to every story.
With the over sight the regulator is supposed to be carrying out how can things get so bad so quickly that the operation needs to be shut down immediately? Surely there must be ongoing issues bubbling away prior to the complete shutdown, and deficiencies that haven't been addressed within a given time frame. Are some operators so hopeless they cannot get their stuff sorted or is the regulator trigger happy?
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"However why is it theses breaches always seem to come to a head on a Friday afternoon or at a time when any grounding is going to have maximum financial impact for the company concerned."
"CASA's administrative action is a form of economic regulation - or financial strangulation. Ground the b@stards without trial long enough to break them financially!"
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27/09 There is no doubt the regulator must act when there is good evidence of a breach of the rules.
However why is it theses breaches always seem to come to a head on a Friday afternoon or at a time when any grounding is going to have maximum financial impact for the company concerned. It doesn't give the "accused" a fair chance to defend their position. There's always two sides to every story.
With the over sight the regulator is supposed to be carrying out how can things get so bad so quickly that the operation needs to be shut down immediately? Surely there must be ongoing issues bubbling away prior to the complete shutdown, and deficiencies that haven't been addressed within a given time frame. Are some operators so hopeless they cannot get their stuff sorted or is the regulator trigger happy?
However why is it theses breaches always seem to come to a head on a Friday afternoon or at a time when any grounding is going to have maximum financial impact for the company concerned. It doesn't give the "accused" a fair chance to defend their position. There's always two sides to every story.
With the over sight the regulator is supposed to be carrying out how can things get so bad so quickly that the operation needs to be shut down immediately? Surely there must be ongoing issues bubbling away prior to the complete shutdown, and deficiencies that haven't been addressed within a given time frame. Are some operators so hopeless they cannot get their stuff sorted or is the regulator trigger happy?
I understand there has been offices in remote areas since about 2010? So what has changed? Was the glass half full and now half empty. Is it the move from a small 'r' regulator to the capital 'R' regulator. Byron to McCormick? New regulations and how applied? Maybe SMS? Delegated responsibility to industry?