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flying-spike 23rd Dec 2012 06:24

CASA Suspends Barrier Aviation Operations
 
My heart goes out to all those affected by this action and I would suspect that there would have to be fire where CASA thinks there is smoke however a cynic might say that CASA believes that they are the barrier to Aviation and there isn't room for another.
I hope they are back in the air as soon as possible and as safely as possible.
Safety authority grounds Barrier Aviation- Local Cairns News | cairns.com.au

come fly 23rd Dec 2012 06:28

About time that dodgy operation got grounded. Hopefully CASA are doing the rounds and couple more get whats coming.

Nose wheel first 23rd Dec 2012 06:36

From the CASA website.... the media release has just been put up...


Barrier Aviation operations suspended

The Civil Aviation Safety Authority has suspended the operations of Barrier Aviation Pty Ltd with immediate effect from 23 December 2012.
This action has been taken because CASA believes permitting Barrier Aviation to continue to fly poses a serious and imminent risk to air safety.
CASA believes Barrier Aviation has been operating aircraft with serious and known defects.
CASA has evidence of Barrier Aviation directing pilots to fly with serious and known aircraft defects, as well as not recording those defects on aircraft maintenance documentation when the defects became known.
The suspension follows an audit of Barrier Aviation which revealed a range of maintenance related deficiencies.
Further investigations by CASA uncovered additional maintenance issues.
The suspension is in force immediately for an initial five working days, during which time CASA must apply to the Federal Court for an extension.
If the Federal Court supports CASA's application, the court can continue the suspension for a period of time which will allow CASA to finalise investigations of all relevant matters. Whether the suspension continues beyond that time would depend upon CASA's findings.
Barrier Aviation is a Cairns based charter, aerial work and flying training air operator.
Operations are conducted from Cairns, Horn Island, Darwin and Gove.
The inconvenience this action will cause for passengers and Barrier's employees is regrettable, especially at this time of year. In all cases and at all times, however, CASA's primary and overriding consideration is safety.

megle2 23rd Dec 2012 06:43

Issued on a Sunday, isn't that a bit odd, 2 days after Casa have supposedly closed for the festive break. Did Casa work yesterday or did something else happen since Friday

Mach E Avelli 23rd Dec 2012 06:57

I don't think there is any conspiracy here. The tone of the press release uses words like " evidence" so I am guessing that their legal counsel has been putting in overtime to get them grounded before the Christmas break rather than go away knowing that the risk is there.
The only up-side to this is that flying demand in the Torres Straits won't disappear because one company gets shut down. Some operator will benefit. However to do that they will need staff, so pilots familiar with the area will probably just have to wear a different uniform in the new year.

that guy 23rd Dec 2012 06:59

Come fly -

I don't know what operation you're talking about but from all of my experience with the folks at barrier you couldn't be more wrong.

Another juvenile and cowardly act by casa, submitting this on a Sunday ( let alone 2 days before Xmas) they should be ashamed. I hope for all the innocent parties involved that this is resolved quickly as it should be

Frank Arouet 23rd Dec 2012 08:12


Issued on a Sunday, isn't that a bit odd, 2 days after Casa have supposedly closed for the festive break. Did Casa work yesterday or did something else happen since Friday
Now this is different. Somebody at fort fumble is either working sanctioned overtime or doing it on their own bat. Probably no dustcap on a tyre.

Curious indeed.

Merry Christmas to the delegate.

rutan around 23rd Dec 2012 08:15

The release uses words like 'evidence'
This is a rumour network and rumour has it that the company has been suspended by a gent that has the unlikely nickname 'Captain Dustcap' So diligent is he in chasing errant pilots with missing tyre tube dustcaps that some pilots are said to carry a few in their pocket whenever he's about. No doubt he has evidence Barrier has had numerous cases of missing dust caps and has exceeded it's quota. This is serious and has nothing to do with CD earning triple time and a half all over xmas and as a bonus avoiding all the invading rellies that visit at this time of the year.
RA

come fly 23rd Dec 2012 08:46

THAT GUY

Mate your just another naive chump, who can't see the big picture. The way management did business there was shocking, forcing their pilots to fly just to get the job done. This is long over due and who cares what time of the year it is, they potentially saved a couple lives before the years end.

halfmanhalfbiscuit 23rd Dec 2012 08:50


The suspension is in force immediately for an initial five working days, during which time CASA must apply to the Federal Court for an extension.
If the Federal Court supports CASA's application, the court can continue the suspension for a period of time which will allow CASA to finalise investigations of all relevant matters. Whether the suspension continues beyond that time would depend upon CASA's findings.
I was previously going to post did anybody get a Xmas eve fax!

The 23rd is interesting maybe cynical timing. I'm sure there is going to be just enough time on the 24th for the application to the Federal Court. It gives Barrier Aviation little time to respond, understand issues, plan how to rectify and get legal representation.

CASA would be a little more respected if there were not these issues arising on Friday afternoon, Xmas and Easter. There appears to be a pattern and adversarial approach.

Trent 972 23rd Dec 2012 08:50


About time that dodgy operation got grounded. Hopefully CASA are doing the rounds and couple more get whats coming.
Hey comefly, you must be the smartest guy in the room, after all you've been around for almost 6 years now.


8th Feb 2007, 19:56

Posted By come fly

hi there,
i just finished my trainging with GFS last year to comercial stage.
Any half decent investigator could discover who you are, and perhaps BA might ask you to help pay their legal fees to fight this absurdity.
ps
1. Learn how to spell, dipstick.
2. Please have a go back at me, I need the laugh.
3. Farkwit

come fly 23rd Dec 2012 09:05

That's all you got, "learn how to spell". You had 3 points listed, fill them in.

romeocharlie 23rd Dec 2012 09:09

Clearly feeding the trolls here but as someone that has been around longer than a few years Trent, I've got plenty of experience in the north and back up the grounding 100% if conditions haven't improved in the last couple of years. I'm terribly sorry to the pilots involved now - horrible Christmas prezzie - good luck gents. I do hope the doors re-open with a safer operation.

Old Akro 23rd Dec 2012 09:15

Fax machine must have broken. Had it fixed by a private contractor then the fax transmitted from the memory.

Seriously, it makes CASA look like they have no process.

Trent 972 23rd Dec 2012 09:18

come fly
Hover your mouse over #3. for the full text. :E

rc, do yourself a favour and find out how long ago the audit was.


...This action has been taken because CASA believes permitting Barrier Aviation to continue to fly poses a serious and imminent risk to air safety
I'd hate to be hanging by my testes while casa considers taking 'immediate action'

fpvdude- It's more about being Open and Fair. This action smacks of bastardry.

that guy 23rd Dec 2012 09:20

Hey come fly
thanks for the mature, balanced and reasonable response :-/ clearly you had a bad experience. but you are tarring a lot of people from 5 bases over two states with the same brush. Any How I don't feed trolls so all the best buddy...

Tidbinbilla 23rd Dec 2012 09:33

Play nice kids, don't feed the troll, and enjoy the festive season :ok:

TID

Nose wheel first 23rd Dec 2012 09:46

An interesting and very valid point you raise regarding the whole VFR in IMC issue in the Straits slam_click. I note with interest that CASA have only cited maintenance issues for the grounding, not anything else.

fpvdude, what slam says is true unfortunately. It seems not everyone flying around Horn has read those history books you allude to.

Josh Cox 23rd Dec 2012 11:21

Having worked for more than a few operators in GA, Barrier was the best I had the pleasure of working for.

I'd reckon this has more to do with CASA than Barrier, I'd reckon Barrier was number two on a special list, and two days before xmas, shameful.

I'm with "that guy", Dave, Cher, Sue and crew, awesome people.

Come Fly, you're a nasty little man, I hope I never meet you.

Good hunting Barrier.

lostwingnut 23rd Dec 2012 11:21


The suspension follows an audit of Barrier Aviation which revealed a range of maintenance related deficiencies.
Wasn't there an audit back in April or May this year?
Thats a good solid seven months ago!

This all seems a bit odd, why would CASA wait so long?

...... poses a serious and imminent risk to air safety.
Seems like someone is playing games waiting to issue a notice on the Sunday a couple days before Christmas. Is this normal for CASA? Has a familiar tone to Hardy's a couple weeks ago getting a letter after 5pm on a Friday.

Does anyone know if this effects the whole of Barrier, or are the four or five bases all run separately on different AOC's?


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