Touch and go
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 192
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From: Australia
I read it. I also dont understand how a T/G is going to give me the leans, so not sure how your raising the leans and "other illusions" is relevant.
3. Might just be my last 3 types..... However if a pilot can't reach down, raise flap lever, keep straight, apply full power, climb away I'm not sure that said pilot should be doing night go-arounds either, so maybe they probably shouldn't be flying.
3. Might just be my last 3 types..... However if a pilot can't reach down, raise flap lever, keep straight, apply full power, climb away I'm not sure that said pilot should be doing night go-arounds either, so maybe they probably shouldn't be flying.
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 467
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From: Vic
My 2.1 hrs of night circuits last night brings me to about 500hrs of night circuits alone. Nothing qwrong with them as long as the due amount of caution is applied.
As far as touched down and lift off distance, i have chalked out a 200m box on the runway and done it with ease.
i also teach 2 wheel touch and goes, as a dual exercise to refine pitch control. In most se engine aircraft, the C172 in particular, the increase in airflow over the wing from going to full power will give you almost instantaneous lift off. This doesnt apply if you're very slow when you apply the power.
Touch and goes at night are no problem. Most runways with decent lights through enough light when youre on the runway its almost too bright. They can be blinding at times.
The most dangerous bit is the climbout when its black as and the climbing turn on to crosswind.
As far as touched down and lift off distance, i have chalked out a 200m box on the runway and done it with ease.
i also teach 2 wheel touch and goes, as a dual exercise to refine pitch control. In most se engine aircraft, the C172 in particular, the increase in airflow over the wing from going to full power will give you almost instantaneous lift off. This doesnt apply if you're very slow when you apply the power.
Touch and goes at night are no problem. Most runways with decent lights through enough light when youre on the runway its almost too bright. They can be blinding at times.
The most dangerous bit is the climbout when its black as and the climbing turn on to crosswind.
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 889
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From: Australia
Might be time for me to ask a question.
Why are you doing night circuits? If it's to have fun or to gain competence at some highly specific task, by all means do t&g within a 200meter box, or whatever. You've got a license which qualifies you to make your own judgments.
Most students however do night circuits when they're inexperienced and learning how to land and to take off at night. In the early stages of training I query the benefit of an abbreviated exercise (because it short cuts the learning process) and the risk of a touch & go (because students, by definition, do crazy things occasionally). Once the student is a qualified night pilot, they aren't students any more and can make their own judgments.
For me, I did plenty of touch and goes at certain times when learning, although it was on a 1800m instrument runway with all relevant aids (lights, PAPI etc). Wasn't world's best practice, but wasn't dangerous either. On a 1000m basic-lighting runway, I would encourage stop and go or stop and backtrack depending on LDR etc.
Regards to all,
O8
Why are you doing night circuits? If it's to have fun or to gain competence at some highly specific task, by all means do t&g within a 200meter box, or whatever. You've got a license which qualifies you to make your own judgments.
Most students however do night circuits when they're inexperienced and learning how to land and to take off at night. In the early stages of training I query the benefit of an abbreviated exercise (because it short cuts the learning process) and the risk of a touch & go (because students, by definition, do crazy things occasionally). Once the student is a qualified night pilot, they aren't students any more and can make their own judgments.
For me, I did plenty of touch and goes at certain times when learning, although it was on a 1800m instrument runway with all relevant aids (lights, PAPI etc). Wasn't world's best practice, but wasn't dangerous either. On a 1000m basic-lighting runway, I would encourage stop and go or stop and backtrack depending on LDR etc.
Regards to all,
O8
Last edited by Oktas8; 4th September 2012 at 09:35.
