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You serve Australia.
You are paid for by Australian taxpayers.
You operate in the interests of the Australian public.
You are a public servant plain and simple. You can either do this with honour or claim you are superior to somebody working at centrelink who is also a public servant doing a different job towards a similar cause.
And when did I compare you to centrelink? Apart from the above in reference to your comparison. Is a public servant in another government department beneathe you?
It sounds like you are throwing curve balls trying to steer a debate in a more sympathetic and favourable direction.
In the weeds? I think you're "on the weed" ok:
You are paid for by Australian taxpayers.
You operate in the interests of the Australian public.
You are a public servant plain and simple. You can either do this with honour or claim you are superior to somebody working at centrelink who is also a public servant doing a different job towards a similar cause.
And when did I compare you to centrelink? Apart from the above in reference to your comparison. Is a public servant in another government department beneathe you?
It sounds like you are throwing curve balls trying to steer a debate in a more sympathetic and favourable direction.
In the weeds? I think you're "on the weed" ok:
ITW,
The arrogance you are displaying here is quite breathtaking. You are giving your colleagues a very bad name with your performance on an anonymous forum that is frequented mainly by the 'lowly of the low civillian pilots who couldn't pass flight screening'. The last comment was paraphrasing your words.
May I suggest you walk away and take a breath before you put both feet in your mouth simultaneously? Using the recently controversial topic of Cpl Robert-Smith in a topic about headsets? Really?
j3
The arrogance you are displaying here is quite breathtaking. You are giving your colleagues a very bad name with your performance on an anonymous forum that is frequented mainly by the 'lowly of the low civillian pilots who couldn't pass flight screening'. The last comment was paraphrasing your words.
May I suggest you walk away and take a breath before you put both feet in your mouth simultaneously? Using the recently controversial topic of Cpl Robert-Smith in a topic about headsets? Really?
j3
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Is a public servant in another government department beneathe you?
'lowly of the low civillian pilots who couldn't pass flight screening'. The last comment was paraphrasing your words.
I never said that I was like RS, Im far from it...I just see him as the biggest (well known) example of 'not a public servant'... And I would love to see someone tell that unit that he is a public servant...
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This research took me 30 seconds off google mate:
Civil service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
From the above:
A civil servant or public servant is a person in the public sector employed for a government department or agency. The term explicitly excludes the armed services.
Don't you have a meal service to take care of GG?
Civil service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
From the above:
A civil servant or public servant is a person in the public sector employed for a government department or agency. The term explicitly excludes the armed services.
Don't you have a meal service to take care of GG?
ITW,
I never said you were elitist, or a bully. I will answer your question with a question though...
Why is it that whenever an ADF pilot mentions the entry standard, they think that by becoming a D-Cat on something, they are far superior to the Civvie guys? I agree that you are the best of the best of those who applied, nothing more. If one could spend as much on civilian training as you had spent on yours, I think the end product would be similar.
It takes different kinds of abilities and strengths to succeed in both streams, but because one is different from the other, both have this need to demonstrate that they are BETTER than the other lot.
Furthermore, you have been very hostile towards Civvies, ever since you first commented on this thread and not just toward GG...
My bolding. Another one hey? So there's heaps of them? I love generalisations, my turn;
Would that be like me saying, you're another camo wearing monosyllabic knuckle dragger that thinks his sh1t don't stink cos he can fly a helicopter wishing he knew what it was like to talk to sober women? Make your blood boil much? Do you get my point? That is the opposite of what I think of the ADF though.
That's two comments about flying ability, got tickets on yourself there?
Thats right, I forgot that you were born with skills as opposed to acquiring them.
Hmmmmm. that may have been directed at GG, but it infers that being a civvie pilot is something to be ashamed of. Thats like me saying your parents tell everyone that you got your first preference after flight screening and are in the RAAF...
I have actually seen quite a few being tabled recently, Bristow was one of them, I believe CHC was also looking at it.
As an aside, I take a massive issue with this attitude. I am in no way nor would I ever call into question the bravery or conduct of any serving ADF member, but fighting in the MEAO is NOT securing my lifestlye or this country's security. BIG difference between Afghanistan and Indonesia.
And these are just a sample of your attitude, looking back through your post history.
But hey, there's really no point to this, we'll just chase our tails until someone gets dizzy or the thread gets locked. Furthermore, life's too short.
j3
I never said you were elitist, or a bully. I will answer your question with a question though...
Why is it that whenever an ADF pilot mentions the entry standard, they think that by becoming a D-Cat on something, they are far superior to the Civvie guys? I agree that you are the best of the best of those who applied, nothing more. If one could spend as much on civilian training as you had spent on yours, I think the end product would be similar.
It takes different kinds of abilities and strengths to succeed in both streams, but because one is different from the other, both have this need to demonstrate that they are BETTER than the other lot.
Furthermore, you have been very hostile towards Civvies, ever since you first commented on this thread and not just toward GG...
Another elitist airline pilot who thinks his doesn't stink because he can sit at FL nosebleed wishing he could remember what it was like to touch the flight controls...
Would that be like me saying, you're another camo wearing monosyllabic knuckle dragger that thinks his sh1t don't stink cos he can fly a helicopter wishing he knew what it was like to talk to sober women? Make your blood boil much? Do you get my point? That is the opposite of what I think of the ADF though.
only thing decreasing faster than their terms and conditions is their ability to fly....
I would love to be that cool...but poor old me had the skills, co-ordination and shameless good looks required to hover...
Also your parents can be proud of their sons career, and can stop telling their mates at the bowls club that you are a real estate agent...because the truth is far worse.....
Enjoy your lifestyle while it lasts...I don't see many Helicopter cadetships springing up...do you?
one of the many brave selfless men that secured your "lifestyle"
And these are just a sample of your attitude, looking back through your post history.
But hey, there's really no point to this, we'll just chase our tails until someone gets dizzy or the thread gets locked. Furthermore, life's too short.
j3
Not beneath me, my issue is that soldiers are not public servants...They are soldiers.
It's what you make it.
Don't you have a meal service to take care of GG?
You see mate most Pilots have a common respect for what each other does. We have friendly jibes at each other for a bit of fun, but it's all part of the game.
You genuinely sound like you believe your own propaganda. Something tells me you won't last very long in civvy aviation. You'll get a rude shock real quick.
You never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
With that in mind I will let you go troll another thread to get your testosterone fix.
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We have friendly jibes at each other for a bit of fun, but it's all part of the game.
but poor old me had the skills, co-ordination and shameless good looks required to hover
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The DC's mentioned above (page 1) are roughly $200. They are ok, but not great for anything over an hour or two, as pilot's we get used to headsets, but passengers do seem to struggle a bit.
I've also used some StarComs that were $120 each, but all we got was complaints about crushed heads from passengers (after bending them out it was complaints about loose fits - can't win).
Have always wondered how a nice set of normal, off the shelf headphones would work. Maybe a set of Sony or Phillips noise cancelling headphones from JB or Harvey Norman.
Has anyone had any experience with them in a 210 or Airvan? Maybe a 402?
Would be great to get some insight.
LWN
I've also used some StarComs that were $120 each, but all we got was complaints about crushed heads from passengers (after bending them out it was complaints about loose fits - can't win).
Have always wondered how a nice set of normal, off the shelf headphones would work. Maybe a set of Sony or Phillips noise cancelling headphones from JB or Harvey Norman.
Has anyone had any experience with them in a 210 or Airvan? Maybe a 402?
Would be great to get some insight.
LWN
