Multi-Crew Pilot Licence (MPL) conversion
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From: Seat 1A
Originally Posted by Ledslead
Bloggs,
<http://www.aviationbusiness.com.au/news/ctc-aviation-training-targeting-aussie-cadets>
MPL message here somewhere??
<http://www.aviationbusiness.com.au/news/ctc-aviation-training-targeting-aussie-cadets>
MPL message here somewhere??
Originally Posted by Leadsled
several AU operators have( or are in the process) moved their cadets to the MPL system
I have no doubt that, with a properly constructed MPL course (a work in progress) a "potential" airline pilot will be far better prepared for his/ her or its first job, than a "traditionally" trained 200h or so pilot with CPL/IR/very bare multi and frozen ATPL subjects.
But compare your MPL with a ATPL 1500hr-turbine experienced ex-FO (or probably ex-captain). I know which one I want in my RHS. When future AF447s are full of cheap, manipulated MPLs, the pax will stand even less of a chance than they did in 2009.
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From: Australia
Bloggs,
As I already suggested, you really should get out more, you might notice the straws in the wind.
The link was to one of a series of press releases from interested parties. Do you really want them all served up on a plate??
But, my dear chap, the wanting and the getting are very different.
And, I dare say, the getting will not be your choice. The tides of change are against you, as they have always been, but you haven't ever been successful in holding back the tide, have you!!
Tootle pip!!
As I already suggested, you really should get out more, you might notice the straws in the wind.
The link was to one of a series of press releases from interested parties. Do you really want them all served up on a plate??
I know which one I want in my RHS.
And, I dare say, the getting will not be your choice. The tides of change are against you, as they have always been, but you haven't ever been successful in holding back the tide, have you!!
Tootle pip!!
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From: Seat 1A
Unbelievable, sled. You come on here and state:
and when asked you give us a link and say work out out yourself.
As for:
I and my colleagues successfully held off you and your Free In Gee mates for over ten years. And we got (I should say kept) mandatory radio in CTAFs to help protect the travelling public.
several AU operators have( or are in the process) moved their cadets to the MPL system
As for:
The tides of change are against you, as they have always been, but you haven't ever been successful in holding back the tide, have you!!
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From: The Land Downunder
I converted a JAA ATPL to the aussie ATPL. I don't know where you are getting the idea that you need a CPL as well. To convert to an aussie ATPL you do have to complete the aussie CPL law ground exam, just to give you a good grounding in the subject before you complete the ATPL law exam.
You might want to check you facts. If you have a JAA ATPL you will be treated in Oz the same as everyone else with an ATPL regardless of what route you took to get this licence.
You might want to check you facts. If you have a JAA ATPL you will be treated in Oz the same as everyone else with an ATPL regardless of what route you took to get this licence.
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From: Australia
---- but have not found an answer to my original question,
With respect, you have been answered, there is no ICAO mechanism for transferring an MPL across borders, and no intended mechanism to transfer an MPL between airlines.
The intent of the MPL is, I would have thought, abundantly clear, it is tied to a particular carrier.
The MPL does step up to an ALTP/ATPL once you have all the hours requirements ---- all of which are gained either during the initial course or during time as a co-pilot-F/O.
Otherwise, you will need to negotiate with whatever NAA you are dealing with, as to what credits you will get against the requirements for a CPL, and what additional training and/or examinations that may be required.
Tootle pip!!
PS: That a variation to this was negotiated by one of the Scandinavian NAAs was a somewhat special case, but an example of how an NAA can be sensible and pragmatic. I wouldn't expect that as a general precedent.
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From: Cote d'Azur
Capn Bloggs:
What do you see as the typical route by which, in turn, your RHS pilot gets to that 1500 hour turbine point?
I have no ax to grind in this debate one way or the other, haven't made my mind up yet.
...compare your MPL with a ATPL 1500hr-turbine experienced ex-FO (or probably ex-captain). I know which one I want in my RHS. When future AF447s are full of cheap, manipulated MPLs, the pax will stand even less of a chance than they did in 2009.
I have no ax to grind in this debate one way or the other, haven't made my mind up yet.
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From: Australia
Risk,
I too would suggest you check your facts carefully. As far as I know there is no requirement to convert an overseas CPL before attempting to convert an overseas ATPL. Sit some CPL ground exams, yes, and pass an IR initial issue flight test, yes.
CASA link
Best of luck,
O8
I too would suggest you check your facts carefully. As far as I know there is no requirement to convert an overseas CPL before attempting to convert an overseas ATPL. Sit some CPL ground exams, yes, and pass an IR initial issue flight test, yes.
CASA link
Best of luck,
O8
