Is Australia its own Worst Enemy?
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Anyone else note the article in The Australian today by Graham 'whatever it takes' Richardson?
Seems even he has given up on Juliar. Meantime, KRudd stirs the pot working the phones.
There will be tears and bitterness in the not too distant future methinks.
Seems even he has given up on Juliar. Meantime, KRudd stirs the pot working the phones.
There will be tears and bitterness in the not too distant future methinks.
Folks,
According to Can'tborough's red hot rumor mill, TinTin is only 9 votes short of rolling one of the Julias. What an incestuous pit of vipers, is it the warm weather?? (meaning no disrespect for snakes in the grass).
The interests of the country as as far down the order of Labor political priorities that it looks like the QF boards view of QF staff and shareholders.
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According to Can'tborough's red hot rumor mill, TinTin is only 9 votes short of rolling one of the Julias. What an incestuous pit of vipers, is it the warm weather?? (meaning no disrespect for snakes in the grass).
The interests of the country as as far down the order of Labor political priorities that it looks like the QF boards view of QF staff and shareholders.
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TinTin is only 9 votes short
Methinks not... or certainly not totally.
Fiddling...
Rome...
Burns...
are three of four words that immediately come to mind when I watch this sorry crew in action.
Aggghhhh!! Just when I thought things couldn't get worse, I was proven wrong. Sarah HansenhypenYoung just came on screen!!
Oh no!! Followed immediately by Krudd.
Followed immediately by Julair.
Talk about OD-ing on a bad batch of smack!
So it's Tony Abbott's fault that the boats started coming again when Julia's policy was introduced to replace the Pacific Solution. True! I think it was Shorten making the claim in debate yesterday. Apparently the opposition didn't vote against the changes back then; so it's their fault now that the policy hasn't worked.
Doesn't matter that Abbott wasn't opposition leader at the time. He's the nom du jour.
Now Julia thinks she has the solution, even though all her other ideas have failed - so we can trust her that she's right this time. But that nasty Mr Abbott won't support her draft and she won't support his alternative - so that's all his fault too that neither version will get through both houses.
And apparently, if her legislation doesn't get through this time, no future government can apparently legislate for off shore processing in the future.
And that's all Mr Abbott's fault too.
Pulllleeeassse!!!!!!!
Doesn't she realise that, every time she accuses Abbott of causing her a problem, she is highlighting both the failures of her policies and her inability to lead this country.
That Mr Abbott bloke sure must be a strong leader. Look at what the Prime Minister says he can make happen. And look how she can't get anything through him.
She's behaving like a little girl who can't get her way and is stamping her foot and blaming everybody else for her shortcomings.
She should try "honest leadership" for a change - but I don't think it's in her makeup.
Doesn't matter that Abbott wasn't opposition leader at the time. He's the nom du jour.
Now Julia thinks she has the solution, even though all her other ideas have failed - so we can trust her that she's right this time. But that nasty Mr Abbott won't support her draft and she won't support his alternative - so that's all his fault too that neither version will get through both houses.
And apparently, if her legislation doesn't get through this time, no future government can apparently legislate for off shore processing in the future.
And that's all Mr Abbott's fault too.
Pulllleeeassse!!!!!!!
Doesn't she realise that, every time she accuses Abbott of causing her a problem, she is highlighting both the failures of her policies and her inability to lead this country.
That Mr Abbott bloke sure must be a strong leader. Look at what the Prime Minister says he can make happen. And look how she can't get anything through him.
She's behaving like a little girl who can't get her way and is stamping her foot and blaming everybody else for her shortcomings.
She should try "honest leadership" for a change - but I don't think it's in her makeup.
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Wonder what she'd do if Abbott voted in favour of the Malaysian deal after announcing he didn't like it, but would support it "in the national interest" (or some other self-serving phrase)?
She'd have major egg on her face when #810 asylum seeker arrived. (Not that I think the Malaysians have any intention of taking anyone they can find the slightest excuse to refuse entry.)
She'd have major egg on her face when #810 asylum seeker arrived. (Not that I think the Malaysians have any intention of taking anyone they can find the slightest excuse to refuse entry.)
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Wonder what she'd do if Abbott had the Opposition vote in favour of the Malaysian deal after announcing he didn't like it, but would support it "in the national interest" (or some other self-serving phrase)?
She'd have major egg on her face when #810 asylum seeker arrived. (Not that I think the Malaysians have any intention of taking anyone they can find the slightest excuse to refuse entry.)
She'd have major egg on her face when #810 asylum seeker arrived. (Not that I think the Malaysians have any intention of taking anyone they can find the slightest excuse to refuse entry.)
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Anyone remember the scenes from the floor of the House on the morning after Krudd's knifing?
Abbott went to the middle of the floor to shake Juliar's hand and the microphones picked up her triumphant comment ...."Game's on"
Well, it certainly is Juliar and it would appear to be the case that you're the loser. The only person who appears to be in denial about that is Juliar herself.
I guess the likes of the "dear departed" and the recent Lazarus reincarnations of the same are squirming right now (and probably have been for a while).
Abbott went to the middle of the floor to shake Juliar's hand and the microphones picked up her triumphant comment ...."Game's on"
Well, it certainly is Juliar and it would appear to be the case that you're the loser. The only person who appears to be in denial about that is Juliar herself.
I guess the likes of the "dear departed" and the recent Lazarus reincarnations of the same are squirming right now (and probably have been for a while).
I guess the likes of the "dear departed" and the recent Lazarus reincarnations of the same are squirming right now
They have a sort of air of desperation about them that smacks of the true, righteous fanatic.
If labor is failing as a government, it's all the fault of people who think differently to them. Nothing to do with labor's actions whatsoever.
And an e-mail doing the rounds:
Last Saturday afternoon, in Canberra, an aide to Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd visited the Bishop of the Catholic Cathedral in Canberra . He told the Cardinal that Kevin would be attending the next day's Mass, and he asked if the Cardinal would kindly point him out to the congregation and say a few words that would include calling Kevin a saint. The Cardinal replied, "No. I don't really like the man, and there are issues of conflict with the Catholic Church over certain of his views." Rudd's aide then said, "Look, I'll write a cheque here and now for a donation of $100,000 to your church if you'll just tell the Congregation you see Kevin as a saint." The Cardinal thought about it and said, "Well, the church can use the money, so I'll work your request into tomorrow's sermon."
As the aide promised, Foreign Minister Rudd appeared for the Sunday worship and seated himself prominently at the forward left side of the centre aisle. As promised, at the start of his sermon, the Cardinal pointed out that Mr Rudd was present. The Cardinal went on to explain to the congregation, "While Mr Rudd's presence is probably an honor to some, the man is not numbered among my personal favorite personages. Some of his most egregious views are contrary to tenets of the Church, and he tends to flip- flop on many other issues. Kevin Rudd is a petty, self -absorbed hypocrite, a thumb sucker, and a nit-wit. He is also a serial liar, a cheat, and a thief. I must say, Kevin Rudd is the worst example of a Christian I have ever personally witnessed. He married for money and is using his wealth to lie to the Australian People. He also has a reputation for shirking his Representative Obligations both in Canberra , in Queensland and overseas. The man is simply not to be trusted." The Cardinal concluded, "But, when compared with Prime Minister Gillard, Foreign Minister Rudd is a saint."
Last Saturday afternoon, in Canberra, an aide to Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd visited the Bishop of the Catholic Cathedral in Canberra . He told the Cardinal that Kevin would be attending the next day's Mass, and he asked if the Cardinal would kindly point him out to the congregation and say a few words that would include calling Kevin a saint. The Cardinal replied, "No. I don't really like the man, and there are issues of conflict with the Catholic Church over certain of his views." Rudd's aide then said, "Look, I'll write a cheque here and now for a donation of $100,000 to your church if you'll just tell the Congregation you see Kevin as a saint." The Cardinal thought about it and said, "Well, the church can use the money, so I'll work your request into tomorrow's sermon."
As the aide promised, Foreign Minister Rudd appeared for the Sunday worship and seated himself prominently at the forward left side of the centre aisle. As promised, at the start of his sermon, the Cardinal pointed out that Mr Rudd was present. The Cardinal went on to explain to the congregation, "While Mr Rudd's presence is probably an honor to some, the man is not numbered among my personal favorite personages. Some of his most egregious views are contrary to tenets of the Church, and he tends to flip- flop on many other issues. Kevin Rudd is a petty, self -absorbed hypocrite, a thumb sucker, and a nit-wit. He is also a serial liar, a cheat, and a thief. I must say, Kevin Rudd is the worst example of a Christian I have ever personally witnessed. He married for money and is using his wealth to lie to the Australian People. He also has a reputation for shirking his Representative Obligations both in Canberra , in Queensland and overseas. The man is simply not to be trusted." The Cardinal concluded, "But, when compared with Prime Minister Gillard, Foreign Minister Rudd is a saint."
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We must be on the same mailing list, Cooda. I got that one myself.
I've been trolling through 'The Weekend Australian' this morning. Multiple articles from different journalists on two widely disparate subjects: Julia Gillard (and the increasing consensus that her days as the denizen of the BoganVilla are numbered) and some old Commie called Walter Seddon Clayton who, before he died, confirmed that the Petrov affair was definitely not (as the Labor luvvies and the MSM constantly tell us) a beat up by Menzies to embarrass Doc Evatt and the ALP. Instead, he said that he was the top man in the CPA (Communist Party of Australia) and that all those people in the Department of Foreign Affairs who were named but never prosecuted were very much his agents and were, via him, passing everything on to Moscow.
Given that we now have an ex-(yeah, right)-CPA member (and the child of two hard core CPA members) now serving as a senator for... (now what Party is the lady representing?), his closing comment to interviewer Desmond Ball is illuminating: "He said that with the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, communists had "lost the first round". However, he enthusiastically awaited "the next round", telling me about the next generation of covert communists and referring me to the children of those who had been in his spy network."
I've been trolling through 'The Weekend Australian' this morning. Multiple articles from different journalists on two widely disparate subjects: Julia Gillard (and the increasing consensus that her days as the denizen of the BoganVilla are numbered) and some old Commie called Walter Seddon Clayton who, before he died, confirmed that the Petrov affair was definitely not (as the Labor luvvies and the MSM constantly tell us) a beat up by Menzies to embarrass Doc Evatt and the ALP. Instead, he said that he was the top man in the CPA (Communist Party of Australia) and that all those people in the Department of Foreign Affairs who were named but never prosecuted were very much his agents and were, via him, passing everything on to Moscow.
Given that we now have an ex-(yeah, right)-CPA member (and the child of two hard core CPA members) now serving as a senator for... (now what Party is the lady representing?), his closing comment to interviewer Desmond Ball is illuminating: "He said that with the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, communists had "lost the first round". However, he enthusiastically awaited "the next round", telling me about the next generation of covert communists and referring me to the children of those who had been in his spy network."
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Gillard isn't the first Fabian PM of Australia. But she's certainly a lot less subtle about it than people like Hawke, Keating etc. (though perhaps not Whitlam) I think they have been emboldened by the way comrades Blair and Brown got away with completely trashing the UK.
They need to be recognised for what they are before they destroy democracy completely, I hope Australia with it's inbuilt distrust of politicians will be the place where the Fabian dominoes start to fall...(the americans seem to have realised that perhaps nice Mr Obama is another one of them too)
Either the sheeple will wake up and the comrades will all disappear into political obscurity, or if given much longer they will take their whole down countries with them.
They need to be recognised for what they are before they destroy democracy completely, I hope Australia with it's inbuilt distrust of politicians will be the place where the Fabian dominoes start to fall...(the americans seem to have realised that perhaps nice Mr Obama is another one of them too)
Either the sheeple will wake up and the comrades will all disappear into political obscurity, or if given much longer they will take their whole down countries with them.
This thread is immensely entertaining 
Rarely have I read such fatuous right-wing paranoia as is displayed here.
Good thing Ronald Duck banned all the guns - will I see a lot of you out in the streets machine-gunning anybody who looks like they may have the slightest left-leaning tendencies ? What about people who are sunburned - they will be red !!
Many seem to be overlooking the natural inclination of conservative politics to heavily favour big business at the expense of the far greater working population. Do you sincerely believe that a body such as QF management would be "better" for it's staff under a Liberal (or coalition) government ? Anybody remember Work Choices ? How would pilots, engineers etc be faring now under that regime ?
Rarely have I read such fatuous right-wing paranoia as is displayed here.
Good thing Ronald Duck banned all the guns - will I see a lot of you out in the streets machine-gunning anybody who looks like they may have the slightest left-leaning tendencies ? What about people who are sunburned - they will be red !!
Many seem to be overlooking the natural inclination of conservative politics to heavily favour big business at the expense of the far greater working population. Do you sincerely believe that a body such as QF management would be "better" for it's staff under a Liberal (or coalition) government ? Anybody remember Work Choices ? How would pilots, engineers etc be faring now under that regime ?
CFI,
In my view, that Julia was apparently a member of the original Socialist Alliance ( and her parent were the founders of that organisation) is far more significant than reputed membership of the Fabian Society.
The original Socialist Alliance was a breakaway group from the Communist Party of Australia, CPA. The breakaway occurred after the CPA denounced Stalin's slaughter in (as I recall) Hungary in the 1950s. It probably should have been called the Stalinist Party of Australia.
Few Labour politicians in the UK have not been members of the Fabians, in Australia, Fabians have had little policy or practical impact on Australian Labor.
Tootle pip!!
In my view, that Julia was apparently a member of the original Socialist Alliance ( and her parent were the founders of that organisation) is far more significant than reputed membership of the Fabian Society.
The original Socialist Alliance was a breakaway group from the Communist Party of Australia, CPA. The breakaway occurred after the CPA denounced Stalin's slaughter in (as I recall) Hungary in the 1950s. It probably should have been called the Stalinist Party of Australia.
Few Labour politicians in the UK have not been members of the Fabians, in Australia, Fabians have had little policy or practical impact on Australian Labor.
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Anybody remember Work Choices ?
Public acceptable stupidity in voting for the fools in the first place.
Back pressure on the brain of posters who maintain the impetus of Gillard.
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Right now Singapore is hosting a night time F1 race with enough lighting to power a small country for a month, and China is commissioning a new coal fired power station every week to keep up with demand.
The USA is still using more oil per day that the rest of the world combined, not to mention the combined emissions from China and Europe.
Meanwhile, in Australia, all the hippy wankers are praising these labor F-(kwits for introducing the worlds biggest carbon tax, in a country that is producing about 0.001% of all emissions..
Anyone that think we are world leaders and the rest of the world will follow suit is stupid.. Australia is merely a pimple on the arse-cheek of world politics..
Way to go people...
The USA is still using more oil per day that the rest of the world combined, not to mention the combined emissions from China and Europe.
Meanwhile, in Australia, all the hippy wankers are praising these labor F-(kwits for introducing the worlds biggest carbon tax, in a country that is producing about 0.001% of all emissions..
Anyone that think we are world leaders and the rest of the world will follow suit is stupid.. Australia is merely a pimple on the arse-cheek of world politics..
Way to go people...
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And an e-mail doing the rounds:
). Contrary to popular opinion, an heretic is not an unbeliever but a Catholic who has turned against the Church. Just ask Galileo 
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Many seem to be overlooking the natural inclination of conservative politics to heavily favour big business at the expense of the far greater working population.
) support from workers who were dissillusioned with the ALP and liked the self proclaimed no-nonsense (ie right wing) approach to issues like immigration and environment. That came to a screaming halt with Work Choices, where a fair chunk of the demograph thought 'do I vote for worse conditions when I've heard what even the reasonably ambivalent company I work for has planned? Hell no. 
' Hence Kevin 07. Unfortunately Kevin 07 turned out to be a bit...embarassing. Jools The Saviour turned out to be Jools The Debacle, ably supported by the Greens who leaped at the chance to show the disbelievers just how freaky they are. Now we're left with two equally unappetizing options and a bunch of crazy rednecks/treehuggers. Stoked.
As always, being a Queenslander and all that I take exception to being called a redneck because I have the audacity to think the current ALP suck. I'm neither right wing nor particularly paranoid, but even a trainee guide dog can see that they're pretty ordinary. Who's supposed to tell them that? They're not listening to the rank and file, the more honest/vocal unions have been sidelined or actively demonised, Richo is a lone voice in The Australian wilderness and the ALP overlords just keep on trucking.
Just like an ex long haul truckie friend who told me a story about how he woke up with his head on the steering wheel of a road train and a strange 'doonk...doonk...doonk' sound. It was the crash barriers bouncing off his front wheel after he fell asleep at the wheel west of Charleville, as a council road works crew dived for the ditch...
IMO this is the ALP at present, freewheeling in an out of control truck with no-one in control. All ye true believers, keep on trucking. You honestly think they're awesome? Good for you. Like the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith who ignored evil forces within the Church in the interests of PR and at the expense of decency, when the ALP vision blows up in a cloud of focus group wankers and corporate spin, you'll be seen as the Good People who allowed it to happen in the interest of preserving the Organization. Hopefully. Maybe you'll all snivel out of it on the 'we were misinformed' liferaft.
The scale is different (what the Church covered up was far worse than simple political incompetence) but as a formerly loyal member of both organziations, I see similarities in the approach. Now? I Believe in nothing. It's very liberating. 
As with the Church, the Organization has a problem. To many high ranking officials, The Organization has become more important than the people it was supposed to protect. In both cases, the people at the bottom are saying 'what are you trying to achieve? Why should I support you'?
I'm glad we're amusing. Keep laughing it up. Come election day we'll see who's jubilant. Too bad the decision's not exclusively in the hands of the
people and the rednecks/dissillusioned still get a vote. I'm sure you're working on that. 
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