MERGED: Petrol exempt from carbon tax. Aviation included?
Dont worry, if the Green led Labor lot stop yer flying you can always install windmills. Everybody will have a job, we will be a nation of windmill installers..
An absolute bubblehead, babbling brightly about destroying a city’s industry:
An absolute bubblehead, babbling brightly about destroying a city’s industry:
GREENS senator Sarah Hanson-Young believes the South Australian steel town of Whyalla can transform itself into a hub of wind energy if Julia Gillard’s carbon tax forced manufacturer OneSteel to close its operations.
...OneSteel is directly responsible for the jobs of up to 4000 people
Tell that to the workers, Senator | Herald Sun Andrew Bolt Blog
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...OneSteel is directly responsible for the jobs of up to 4000 people
Tell that to the workers, Senator | Herald Sun Andrew Bolt Blog
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...and what do you build windmill towers (and much of the other components of the windmill) out of?
- steel. ... which the Greens can't have us producing in Whyalla because it will (gasp!) destroy the pristine environment they would like Whyalla to have.
Nice one, SHY. Like all Greens policies, all warm and huggie in the abstract - and totally impractical in the cold light of day.
How does Brown get to and from Tasmania (apart from for free [for him] - at taxpayers' expense)? By canoe? No, that would involve taking the bark off a tree. Can't have that.
- steel. ... which the Greens can't have us producing in Whyalla because it will (gasp!) destroy the pristine environment they would like Whyalla to have.
Nice one, SHY. Like all Greens policies, all warm and huggie in the abstract - and totally impractical in the cold light of day.
How does Brown get to and from Tasmania (apart from for free [for him] - at taxpayers' expense)? By canoe? No, that would involve taking the bark off a tree. Can't have that.
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Bit like Bob's Green rail network. What's train juice made out of? Coal.
Aussie thread, Aussie ettiquette, none of this JB chaps' rules/touchy feely stuff. Two men enter...one man leaves...two men enter... 
Can we start a pool on how long it takes 'them' to encourage the mods to lock this thread? 
Former Labor Minister Gary Johns...
Picture Brown’s address to (his recently mooted) United Nations of all People. “Tellurians of the world unite!” He gets no further because a Chinese guard drags him off stage as a dangerous environmentalist and gay activist.
Bob, in the parliament of the world, China has the numbers.
The Greens will consume the good upbringing that family brings, the immense wealth, health and comfort that human ingenuity brings, and the political stability that nation states bring, but they will never defend them.
Full article via Greens do not love humans enough to rule | Herald Sun Andrew Bolt Blog
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Picture Brown’s address to (his recently mooted) United Nations of all People. “Tellurians of the world unite!” He gets no further because a Chinese guard drags him off stage as a dangerous environmentalist and gay activist.
Bob, in the parliament of the world, China has the numbers.
The Greens will consume the good upbringing that family brings, the immense wealth, health and comfort that human ingenuity brings, and the political stability that nation states bring, but they will never defend them.
Full article via Greens do not love humans enough to rule | Herald Sun Andrew Bolt Blog
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...and that is being aided and abetted by Juliar and her bunch of cretins purely so that they can hang on to the trappings of power.
Oh, I am so looking forward to the next election....oblivion for the Greens and almost total annihilation and humiliation for the ALP. Oak****t and Windsor needn't even bother turning up
Oh, I am so looking forward to the next election....oblivion for the Greens and almost total annihilation and humiliation for the ALP. Oak****t and Windsor needn't even bother turning up
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It will take two terms to get the Greens into oblivion sisemen, unless a double disolution can be forced. Sadly I think as more people run from the Labor party, they will vote Green simply because they can't bring themselves to vote for the Conservatives.
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I fear you're right on both counts, Howard.
However, it will be interesting to see how committed many remain if it's as cold next winter as this one's proving to be and when they can't afford to turn the heating on.
That's if the 'new Green' grid can even supply the unaffordable power.
However, it will be interesting to see how committed many remain if it's as cold next winter as this one's proving to be and when they can't afford to turn the heating on.
That's if the 'new Green' grid can even supply the unaffordable power.
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Sadly I think as more people run from the Labor party, they will vote Green simply because they can't bring themselves to vote for the Conservatives.
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Queensland notwithstanding Worrals, you lot are a different mob up there...
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I've just sat through Q&A... (blood pressure's almost back to normal, if not quite yet). The bombshell that was set off in that programme, and that should appear in banner headlines in tomorrow's newspapers as well as setting the talkback radio switchboards into meltdown was Chris Bowen squirming and studiously NOT denying that the Australian taxpayer will be responsible for the education, accommodationand health care (and probably feeding and a living allowance) of the 800 asylum seekers who are sent to Malaysia - for as many decades as they stay there.
You keep thinking that this government can't possibly get something else as wrong as thay have got a succession of things wrong to date, only to be proven wrong.
You keep thinking that this government can't possibly get something else as wrong as thay have got a succession of things wrong to date, only to be proven wrong.
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Just wait for Sunday 7x7. Then we'll see just how badly they can screw things up.
I've done a quick calculation: with the number of "severe polluting companies" dropped by half and with 80% of the population getting some sort of compensation to ensure that they are not affected by the carbon tax by my reckoning a certain Mr George Smith living at 43 Railway Mansions, Surry Hills is the guy that's going to be paying for all this.
Hardly surprising that the average 'man in the street' (who is a labor voter - note RTB et al) cannot figure out what this new tax is supposed to do and is dead set against it.
I've done a quick calculation: with the number of "severe polluting companies" dropped by half and with 80% of the population getting some sort of compensation to ensure that they are not affected by the carbon tax by my reckoning a certain Mr George Smith living at 43 Railway Mansions, Surry Hills is the guy that's going to be paying for all this.
Hardly surprising that the average 'man in the street' (who is a labor voter - note RTB et al) cannot figure out what this new tax is supposed to do and is dead set against it.
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In a desperate move to counter the unpopularity of the Carbon Dioxide Tax, Gillard and Swan at the last minute exempted cars and light commercial vehicles from it.
My questions:
"How can a petrol pump decide what type of vehicle is being refueled"?
"How many of the "other" users will create some sort of "work-around" to avoid the tax"?
The Carbon Dioxide Tax will not make an iota of difference to AGW, but what it will do is:
Create multiple levels of bureaucracy to administer
Create opportunities for rorting of the system
Redistribute wealth
Move affected industries offshore
Make Australia the laughing stock of our trade competitors
"For every person that receives a dollar without earning it, another has to earn it without receiving it"
My questions:
"How can a petrol pump decide what type of vehicle is being refueled"?
"How many of the "other" users will create some sort of "work-around" to avoid the tax"?
The Carbon Dioxide Tax will not make an iota of difference to AGW, but what it will do is:
Create multiple levels of bureaucracy to administer
Create opportunities for rorting of the system
Redistribute wealth
Move affected industries offshore
Make Australia the laughing stock of our trade competitors
"For every person that receives a dollar without earning it, another has to earn it without receiving it"
Interesting to see Christine Milne announcing the creation of a government agency with a $3.2 billion budget.
Wonder who the responsible Minister is.
Or has Canberra adopted the Tasmanian model of shared (ir)responsibility?
Wonder who the responsible Minister is.
Or has Canberra adopted the Tasmanian model of shared (ir)responsibility?
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Just watched Q&A on tape. As has been mentioned above, I'm surprised that the media haven't latched on (screaming) to Bowen's tacit admission that the Malaysians have insisted that none of the 800 asylum seekers Australia is to send there to swap for the 4000 already there will be allowed to be admitted to a public hospital and none who are children will be allowed to enter a Malaysian school.
Nor will the Malaysians provide accommodation for the 800.
In short, despite our taking 4000 for the 800 our government will send there, these 800 will be on the Australian taxpayers' teat for the whole time they remain in Malaysia - and "protected" by some Australian protection documentation to boot.
Which makes their being put "at the end of the queue" as punishment more a punishment for the long suffering Australian taxpayer than for the asylum seekers.
At least Bowen had the good grace to look extremely uncomfortable as he sprouted the ALP "company line" about "destroying the people smugglers' business model".
This mob really couldn't organise a punch up on pay night.
Nor will the Malaysians provide accommodation for the 800.
In short, despite our taking 4000 for the 800 our government will send there, these 800 will be on the Australian taxpayers' teat for the whole time they remain in Malaysia - and "protected" by some Australian protection documentation to boot.
Which makes their being put "at the end of the queue" as punishment more a punishment for the long suffering Australian taxpayer than for the asylum seekers.
At least Bowen had the good grace to look extremely uncomfortable as he sprouted the ALP "company line" about "destroying the people smugglers' business model".
This mob really couldn't organise a punch up on pay night.
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Has Julia turned her back on Australia?
The person on the right is the one who's about to increase the cost of your Avgas.
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For all you old farts out there, pensioners will be "overcompensated" to the tune of $210.00 pa. which equates to just enough petrol at todays pre carbon price to fill the Victa lawn mower once a week. (unless you own a "flymow", and then you can't afford the electricity).
Bloody hell! Woolworths give a bigger discount than $2.00 per week on petrol.
Bloody hell! Woolworths give a bigger discount than $2.00 per week on petrol.
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What the TAX on PLANT FOOD will do for you!
There will be a good outcome of this TAX: Gillard and Swan have committed political suicide adding more justification (if it was ever needed) to remove the most incompetent Labor government Australia has ever seen.
Increase in domestic aviation fuel excise equivalent to carbon price, no effect on international aviation.
There will be a good outcome of this TAX: Gillard and Swan have committed political suicide adding more justification (if it was ever needed) to remove the most incompetent Labor government Australia has ever seen.
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I do wonder why it has (so far) only been a few talk back radio hosts who have actually dared to utter the words that this so called carbon tax is nothing more than ''a Socialist wealth re-distribution scheme.''
Ovation; No argument there. Juliar even makes the Whitlam administration look better than they actually were.
Oh for a double dissolution.
There will be a good outcome of this TAX: Gillard and Swan have committed political suicide adding more justification (if it was ever needed) to remove the most incompetent Labor government Australia has ever seen.
Oh for a double dissolution.