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"And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear: 'A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.'"
Kipling's The Naulahka, shamelessly pinched from a recent post by Sunfish.
Guess Jools and Co haven't read their Kipling either. We'll add it to the list so far; Machiavelli's The Prince, Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, Suetonious' Twelve Ceasars and Sagan's Nuclear Winter. A little light reading while resting her shoe leather may prove useful...
Of course they'd probably scoff at such old fashioned esoteric stuff. After all, they're the 'working man' party
(which I thought was an extinct expression until hearing the ever-trendy 7PM Project poppets using it repeatedly in the Tony Abbot episode. It seems that women don't 'work' at channel 10).
Given that a large percentage of working men, women, dogs and even some of the nation's more complex computer systems have written the current government off as a dud they'd do well to remember the advice from yet another philosopher;
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".
George Santayana
And the epitaph drear: 'A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.'"
Kipling's The Naulahka, shamelessly pinched from a recent post by Sunfish.
Guess Jools and Co haven't read their Kipling either. We'll add it to the list so far; Machiavelli's The Prince, Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, Suetonious' Twelve Ceasars and Sagan's Nuclear Winter. A little light reading while resting her shoe leather may prove useful...
Of course they'd probably scoff at such old fashioned esoteric stuff. After all, they're the 'working man' party
(which I thought was an extinct expression until hearing the ever-trendy 7PM Project poppets using it repeatedly in the Tony Abbot episode. It seems that women don't 'work' at channel 10). Given that a large percentage of working men, women, dogs and even some of the nation's more complex computer systems have written the current government off as a dud they'd do well to remember the advice from yet another philosopher;
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".
George Santayana
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Some bad news for some in this morning's 'Weekend Australian'.
PM's ghost has come back to haunt | The Australian
If that ever came to pass, how many aviation jobs would go as well?
Wireless challenge to 'future-proof' NBN | The Australian
I have admit that I said at the time the NBN was announced that something like this would almost certainly come along, quite probably before the NBN cables had been all laid.
It's my cause and I'll walk if I'm unhappy: Rob Oakeshott | The Australian
It will be interesting to see how much coverage any of these stories get on the ABC.
PM's ghost has come back to haunt | The Australian
Labor's partner in this crusade, the Greens, have argued at length for an end to mining coal - not only for domestic use, but also for export.
A recent analysis by RMIT economists Sinclair Davidson and Ashton De Silva of Greens' policies towards the coal industry shows that if implemented, 200,000 jobs would be lost and $29 billion would be taken out of the economy.
A recent analysis by RMIT economists Sinclair Davidson and Ashton De Silva of Greens' policies towards the coal industry shows that if implemented, 200,000 jobs would be lost and $29 billion would be taken out of the economy.
Wireless challenge to 'future-proof' NBN | The Australian
A TECHNOLOGY guru who has been described as the Thomas Edison of Silicon Valley claims to have developed a new wireless technology that could one day rival the download speeds on the National Broadband Network.
The new technology, called DIDO, allows internet users to access download speeds up to 1000 times faster than possible on conventional wireless networks, without any fall in speed as more users get on to the network.
The new technology, called DIDO, allows internet users to access download speeds up to 1000 times faster than possible on conventional wireless networks, without any fall in speed as more users get on to the network.
I have admit that I said at the time the NBN was announced that something like this would almost certainly come along, quite probably before the NBN cables had been all laid.
It's my cause and I'll walk if I'm unhappy: Rob Oakeshott | The Australian
JULIA Gillard's minority government has been put on notice it will need to start delivering on tax reform by the May budget or risk losing the support of key independent Rob Oakeshott.
Has anyone else tried to step back and attempted to make sense of the totality of Kevin/Juliar's reforms and where they are taking us?
IR laws that work against the employer.
Tax reforms that work against the high achievers and business.
Knee jerk responses , sorry policy decisions, that have gutted previously viable industries.
Significant increases in public sector manning and commensurate overbearing regulatory powers.
International agreements that commit us to significant offshore payments.
Massive borrowings (on per capita basis)
Control of the internet (will Conroy apply his filter to the NBN?)
Continuous and growing attempts to stifle dissenting views in the media (including the Cane Toad Wheel?
)
I'd love to know what the real Julia's vision of Australia into the future is. I strongly suspect it ain't one I share.
IR laws that work against the employer.
Tax reforms that work against the high achievers and business.
Knee jerk responses , sorry policy decisions, that have gutted previously viable industries.
Significant increases in public sector manning and commensurate overbearing regulatory powers.
International agreements that commit us to significant offshore payments.
Massive borrowings (on per capita basis)
Control of the internet (will Conroy apply his filter to the NBN?)
Continuous and growing attempts to stifle dissenting views in the media (including the Cane Toad Wheel?
)I'd love to know what the real Julia's vision of Australia into the future is. I strongly suspect it ain't one I share.
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You forgot to mention this lamentably incompetent government is gonna slug you extra for Avgas in the guise of a Carbon (dioxide) Tax.
Wayne Swan is also considering a tax on Dihydrogen Monoxide after receiving a petition from the Greens. Dihydrogen Monoxide Facts
You forgot to mention this lamentably incompetent government is gonna slug you extra for Avgas in the guise of a Carbon (dioxide) Tax.
Wayne Swan is also considering a tax on Dihydrogen Monoxide after receiving a petition from the Greens. Dihydrogen Monoxide Facts
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Counting down to the scenes of people of middle eastern appearance being dragged onto an A320 against their will with the Feds and their drawn weapons.
With everything coming back to bite at least she's got a big enough bum for a target
Maybe this thread could be merged with the "Is Australia its own worst enemy" thread
With everything coming back to bite at least she's got a big enough bum for a target
Maybe this thread could be merged with the "Is Australia its own worst enemy" thread
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Traditionally media aren't allowed within a bull's roar of involuntary deportees, although the YouTube theory on the other thread is intriguing to say the least. Maybe they'll save it for an upcoming Border Security episode; anything's possible with the current rock show.
There have been charter flights for deportees before and they're usually dead-of-night, other-end-of-the-airport type operations (as an aside, if the average airport Fed drew a weapon a whole bunch of moths would probably fly out of the holster
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There have been charter flights for deportees before and they're usually dead-of-night, other-end-of-the-airport type operations (as an aside, if the average airport Fed drew a weapon a whole bunch of moths would probably fly out of the holster
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as an aside, if the average airport Fed drew a weapon a whole bunch of moths would probably fly out of the holster
An aquaintance was a firearms instructor for the Pleece Farce a few years ago and recently made the comment to me that the average copper ''could'nt hit a toilet door from the inside!''
A bit unkind of course but you get the drift.
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An aquaintance was a firearms instructor for the Pleece Farce a few years ago and recently made the comment to me that the average copper ''could'nt hit a toilet door from the inside!''
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Possibly a poor reflection on your 'aquaintances' training techniques.
Thread drift over. Back to the subject.
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Comrade Albanese, (Minister for noisy airports in Labor electorates), suggests, indeed encourages, a high speed railway link for the "J" curve stating it would relieve congestion at airports, save squillions and prevent road deaths, not to mention we can forget about future airports and there is probably a carbon benefit. (hang on, what powers electric trains??. Oh, windmills perhaps).
But like most "new" projects, it will not be completed until 2500AD or thereabouts so there is always a question of sincerity with this lot of liars or their progeny.
Whilst noble in Comrade Albanese's suggestion, but dating from previous era's, and it makes for happy travellers, (@350 KM/Hr), it doesn't bring a brass razzooo into the coffers for trade goods which would be best served by an inland freight rail line at subsonic speeds.
Someone even suggested, (about 1900), that we should dig a channel from Port Augusta to Lake Eyre which is below sea level, and flood the "inland sea" with tidal water. The result being an evaporative source for Coriolis weather patterns and drought proofing that area East of it.
Some even prompt another Snowy scheme to divert water West of the Divide in North Qld into the Darling basin.
Unfortunately, it is beyond the imagination, vision or agenda of our current minority government, and of more importance, it's completion is beyond their term of office.
So why do people believe a brain fart now by this government will evolve into anything in years to come.
Is aviation fuel exempt from the carbon tax?
Who cares if we can beat that silly fuel hurdle by simply flying large clean electric hypersonic heliothopterplanes.
But like most "new" projects, it will not be completed until 2500AD or thereabouts so there is always a question of sincerity with this lot of liars or their progeny.
Whilst noble in Comrade Albanese's suggestion, but dating from previous era's, and it makes for happy travellers, (@350 KM/Hr), it doesn't bring a brass razzooo into the coffers for trade goods which would be best served by an inland freight rail line at subsonic speeds.
Someone even suggested, (about 1900), that we should dig a channel from Port Augusta to Lake Eyre which is below sea level, and flood the "inland sea" with tidal water. The result being an evaporative source for Coriolis weather patterns and drought proofing that area East of it.
Some even prompt another Snowy scheme to divert water West of the Divide in North Qld into the Darling basin.
Unfortunately, it is beyond the imagination, vision or agenda of our current minority government, and of more importance, it's completion is beyond their term of office.
So why do people believe a brain fart now by this government will evolve into anything in years to come.
Is aviation fuel exempt from the carbon tax?
Who cares if we can beat that silly fuel hurdle by simply flying large clean electric hypersonic heliothopterplanes.
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Who cares if we can beat that silly fuel hurdle by simply flying large clean electric hypersonic heliothopterplanes.
Interesting that Turnbull managed to get 11% in a poll about the preferred Labor leader!
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18 out of 54 on the latest boat are minors (or claiming to be minors), 14 of them unaccompanied.
What's the bet -
(a) none of the minors from this boat are sent to Malaysia, and
(b) the passengers on the next boat(s) will be made up mostly of unaccompanied minors?
I see Malaysian police arrived on Christmas Island today "to be briefed". What's the bet you and I paid for their airfares and allowances while they're there?
What's the bet also that quite a few of the so-called minors are anything but?
What's the bet -
(a) none of the minors from this boat are sent to Malaysia, and
(b) the passengers on the next boat(s) will be made up mostly of unaccompanied minors?
I see Malaysian police arrived on Christmas Island today "to be briefed". What's the bet you and I paid for their airfares and allowances while they're there?
What's the bet also that quite a few of the so-called minors are anything but?
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Panel sinks Labor claim on productivity | The Australian
I heard one commentator describe the Rudd/Gillard government as a "Cassanova Government" (because everything they touched, they fkuced).
FINALLY, an official body has exploded Julia Gillard's ridiculous claim that her labour market reregulation is promoting productivity rather than undermining it.
The Productivity Commission's retailing inquiry was sparked by the online shopping threat, but it has ended up blowing the whistle on the retailers' bigger problem -- the Prime Minister's efficiency-sapping Fair Work Act.
As the Productivity Commission notes, Gillard even gave her legislation a last-minute "exceptional circumstances" exemption from a regulation impact statement.
The Productivity Commission's retailing inquiry was sparked by the online shopping threat, but it has ended up blowing the whistle on the retailers' bigger problem -- the Prime Minister's efficiency-sapping Fair Work Act.
As the Productivity Commission notes, Gillard even gave her legislation a last-minute "exceptional circumstances" exemption from a regulation impact statement.
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Well Joolya did say "There will be no caaarbon tax under a govament eye lead". 
Does anyone feel she lied - no, not lies just bulsh*t to quote the Blues Brothers!
But if you look really close, kind of squint your eyes, tilt your head to one side kind of look closely, you can sort of see that she didn't lie - she doesn't lead the country. She might be PM of course but it is the Watermelons (Green on the outside & Red on the inside) led by his Royal Browness who run the country.............sheeiiit!
Does anyone feel she lied - no, not lies just bulsh*t to quote the Blues Brothers!
But if you look really close, kind of squint your eyes, tilt your head to one side kind of look closely, you can sort of see that she didn't lie - she doesn't lead the country. She might be PM of course but it is the Watermelons (Green on the outside & Red on the inside) led by his Royal Browness who run the country.............sheeiiit!
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Now that's a surprise! Who would've thunk it? An injunction to stop them sending the latest queue jumpers to Malaysia.
What was that about the "casanova government"? Everything they touch they fcuk?
What was that about the "casanova government"? Everything they touch they fcuk?
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Who was it who said on this or the other thread "What's the bet not one will ever be deported to Malaysia."?
Labor's Malaysia Solution all at sea as High Court action stops deportations | The Australian
Forget Malaysia. Why can't the boats simply be turned around and sent straight back to Indonesia? If they sabotage their boat, there are many others available from all the previous arrivals. Have one on standby with just enough fuel to get them back to their port of departure. After two or three boatloads return to port demanding their money back, the people smugglers' "business plan" will be shot full of holes far more effectively than anything Dillard and Bowen have come up with so far.
Labor's Malaysia Solution all at sea as High Court action stops deportations | The Australian
Forget Malaysia. Why can't the boats simply be turned around and sent straight back to Indonesia? If they sabotage their boat, there are many others available from all the previous arrivals. Have one on standby with just enough fuel to get them back to their port of departure. After two or three boatloads return to port demanding their money back, the people smugglers' "business plan" will be shot full of holes far more effectively than anything Dillard and Bowen have come up with so far.
Speaking of boat people arrivals, here's some interesting numbers.
Boat arrival stats...
2001 - 43 boats, 5516 people
* Howard introduces Pacific Solution *
2002 - 1 boat, 1 person
2003 - 1 boat,53 people
2004 - 1 boat, 15 people
2005 - 4 boats, 11 people
2006 - 6 boats, 60 people
2007 - 5 boats, 148 people
2008 - 7 boats, 161 people
* End Pacific Solution under new Rudd Government *
2009 - 61 boats, 2849 people
2010 - 134 boats, 6879 people
2011 - On target for a new record...
Boat arrival stats...
2001 - 43 boats, 5516 people
* Howard introduces Pacific Solution *
2002 - 1 boat, 1 person
2003 - 1 boat,53 people
2004 - 1 boat, 15 people
2005 - 4 boats, 11 people
2006 - 6 boats, 60 people
2007 - 5 boats, 148 people
2008 - 7 boats, 161 people
* End Pacific Solution under new Rudd Government *
2009 - 61 boats, 2849 people
2010 - 134 boats, 6879 people
2011 - On target for a new record...
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With the 800 boat people mark about to be passed within a day or two with no sign of a move to Malaysia but with the 4,000 already setting off on the other way can anybody - anybody - name anything that either the Rudd or Gillard government have done that could be called an unadulterated policy success???
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Yes, siseman, they have both (Kev and Jools) proven themselves to be incredibly adept at ***ing up everything they touch, and right royally.
'The Casanova Government' is a very apt term indeed.
'The Casanova Government' is a very apt term indeed.
