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Old 19th Feb 2015, 21:53
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You need to buy the NAIPS app from the Apple site to get weather and lodge flight plans.
Eh? I don't have this app, and while I don't lodge plans from Oz Runways, I can certainly get the weather. I am sure I could lodge plans to if I so desired.
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Old 19th Feb 2015, 23:46
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Thanks rj will look into that again.


Have already downloaded the naips ap, so what you are saying then is I have to manually enter all the flight plan into naips like we used to?


I like how the runways site does a nice flight plan by just entering the destination and departure. Would have hoped they had a function then to just send it to naips.
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Old 20th Feb 2015, 00:07
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I have requested that feature a while back, they are probably busy on the android version at a guess.
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Old 20th Feb 2015, 00:40
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Doesn't appear that they (AvPlan) have a free trial. Just want to get the best program that can do everything.
Hi

Yes, AvPlan EFB has a fully featured one month trial as well. AvPlan EFB will submit flight plans directly, while OzR needs the NAIPS app.

Come see us at the Avalon Airshow next week and see version 5. Its awesome!

Bevan..
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Old 20th Feb 2015, 01:28
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Nice sales pitch Bevan
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Old 20th Feb 2015, 02:49
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Thats not a sales pitch, just answering a question.

I'm very proud of what we do, sorry that this enthusiasm is not to your liking.
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Old 21st Feb 2015, 09:20
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Unsure of how to reply to that Bevan

I'd like to sledge your product but you need to stay professional.

I am glad you are proud of your product but I do not think that this thread is the right place for the comments you make about your product against Ozrunways.

Maybe you you should also be professional and start another thread
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Old 21st Feb 2015, 10:11
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Oh come on, get a grip. He is perfectly entitled to come in here with FACTS.

You must be part of his opposition, are you?
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Old 21st Feb 2015, 10:25
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Not at all

Not associated with either company
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Old 21st Feb 2015, 12:19
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So how about you put your cards on the table Adsie
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 10:47
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Unsure of what you are really asking megle2.

I have no cards to throw down.

I think my comment is very open
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Old 5th Mar 2015, 00:28
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Anyway kiddies,

I notice that OzRwys 4.2.2 has a useful PRD function now. You press and hold within your chosen restricted area and it not only displays the vertical limits, but after what seems like a brief polling of NAIPS, it displays the current status.

This I find truly useful.
One thing I always found very tedious is going through dozens of PRD notams trying to find the ones that will affect my flight route.

The only problem is that it needs an internet connection.
It would be great if you could tick a box next to the chart for PRDs that would, say download all the PRD notams, read them and display the active ones.
You could chose the Area (e.g. 40, 44, 20) and a time limit of your expected operation.
You could do this before you lost 3G, the results saved and displayed on the ERC.
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Old 4th Apr 2015, 07:47
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G'day guys and girls...I have just had a go at setting up weight and balance for evektor Sportstar plus in ozrunways...I have had a lot of trouble however I think i have got it....the only way I could get it to work or even come close was by converting the sportstars POH envelope from having weight (kg) on the Y axis and moment (kg.m) on the X axis.....to instead having length (cm) on the X axis (weight still in Y axis)...I only did it because the app asks for "weight" and "long" when entering the plot points for the envelope...and all I did was work back from the moment (kg.m) to find the length of the arm. when I did it (I.e. I put all the points into the app) the same as the POH (weight X kg.m) it didn't even come close...
when I did it by changing the axis units as above (to weight X arm length) it turned out to be very similar to the cog envelope that is also in the Poh that determines what %MAC the cig position is at...which I thought was a good sign....also when I did dummy tests on it against the POH envelope that I usually use the one I created works very very well. If anyone wanted screen shots of what I did let me know.

So long story short try doing it by inputting the envelope points as weight for Y Axis and length for X axis...I hope I haven't confused this....let me know if I am way off too guys
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Old 4th Apr 2015, 08:17
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Weight problems

When u make a flight plan the fuel is already accounted into the flight plan...if you Adjust any fuel by either:
An aircraft capacity value change - from the settings
Or
Change the value of fuel being carried (this can be done on the flight plan sheet on the right side of the table in the top row - a value will be already placed here that lists the exact amount required for the trip/leg of your current flight plan)
Or
Changing values From the weight and balance set up

When you change any fuel, for example saying you would like to carry 110l instead of the 54l that ozrunways determines that is required for the leg or trip, it will be added to the flight plan as weight on top of your loaded weight (i think ozrunways calls this LW In the app), and your mtow will also increase....however if you select that for the flight you would only like to carry the exact amount that ozrunways says is required the Loaded weight and MTow will add up correctly.

All it is saying is, is that whatever ozrunways determines is required for that flight in fuel weight, will be the difference between your no fuel weight and your Mtow. Any additional fuel will not be counted as fuel weight, it Will automatically be included as load (the same as pax and bags).

Hope this helps
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 11:44
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Ozrunways 5 just released. Impressive work guys!

Live tracking and plain English TAF's are a great addition!
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 15:03
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Decoded TAF's.

Catering for the lowest common denominator
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 21:30
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How very condescending of you, Manymak!

I think this is a great change. I've never understood why they (the BoM in particular) persist in using codes. The opportunities for mis-interpretation should be obvious and, given the ease of communication now, the "fix" has been blindingly obvious yet the pig-headedness continues. Well done OzRunways!
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 21:49
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Dora, the codes exist because in the days of Telex and Morse, every letter sent cost money so brevity was absolutely essential. Go back further and you will even find various "commercial codes" used by businesses to keep communication costs down.

I personally like the codes because it allows me to show off in front of laymen
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 22:14
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I like coded because I can look at a TAF and interpret all the information I need in a second or two. I can read and entire area forecast of TAF's in a minute and move on with my day. The ones that need deeper thought stand out and I can review them in detail.

Decoded is a pain in the arse. Fine if people want it as long as it never replaces the standard format.
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 23:22
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Sunfish:

I personally like the codes because it allows me to show off in front of laymen
You cracked me up with this! A lifetime of flying commercially and I'm still finding an abbreviation and left wondering wtf it means. But I have long learned the correct expression so as to look as though I know it all...

MMM:

Are you serious? You mind must work in very interesting ways; I can find little logic in your comment.
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