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Well given you never sought sound advice from someone who REALLy knew how to help you, and not once did you call or pm, I can only wish you well with the bigger yacht!
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It's hard to help those that can't help themselves. I offered a similar ear some year or more ago for the same series of questions with no response.
To the contrary I ditched my plans for a yacht recently and went with an aircraft instead. Seems I am keeping the healthy balance with Sunfish out of the sky.
Oh and a yacht is generally not an "investment!"
The "investment" for want of a better term of some $60,000 is not a laughing matter.
I haven't had time these last few weeks to seek out any further information from anyone since I'm now deep in the job of being an executor for an estate and that miserable and exacting job is going to keep me busy for some months. I appreciate Jabba and XXX's offers of advice, but I can't take them up right now. I've joined SAAA, but don't have time to engage with them right now either.
As for "a few Internet posts" being a reason for a decision, there has been a consistent stream of allegations and opinions regarding the regulatory environment in Australian Aviation that are not pretty. Some of them may be fanciful, some of them maybe not so fanciful.
The most hair raising allegations involve dishonesty and persecution with the threat of criminal prosecution of innocent aviators. One of those involved a PZL Wilga where a CASA officer was found to have lied, and his lie was supported by other liars. Another involving Polar Aviation is before the Courts.
I have to ask myself the question; will I willingly continue to engage with a regulator if even a quarter of the allegations made are true? Furthermore, will I willingly strengthen that engagement, as I must, if I acquire an aircraft? All my encounters with CASA have been cordial so far, but what if my luck changes?
Let me make one thing clear. I do not believe in the "safety in numbers" theory of coping with that situation. I do not believe "being invisible" is either a safe or workable strategy, because one day, like in random breath testing, you will end up getting ramp checked when you least expect it, and God help you if you encounter an angry CASA official looking to take their frustration out on someone, and not being to careful about how they do it. At least with the Victorian Police force there is an office of police integrity as a check on such behaviour. CASA has nought.
Then there is the question of the regulations and policies themselves. This is another minefield of uncertainty, as has endlessly been discussed. We have both a new part 91 in the works and a new office of sport aviation just created. Clearly that officer will review sport aviation policies. This again creates uncertainty and risk.
I have to track down and deal with each of these uncertainties in order to manage risk. For example, there are the questions of restrictions on operations and flying over populated areas. I can get plenty of verbal advice on these matters but none of it is in writing produced by CASA.
To put it another way, "wink wink, nod nod, I'll just do this to your papers, etc." does not cut it with me. It may be that there is a body of established interpretation and long standing custom in Sport aviation that is accepted by CASA/RAA/SAAA alike, but I haven't been able to confirm this yet although JABA, SAAA and VH - XXX may confirm this - when I have time.
By way of example, I've been told that an aircraft can be transferred from an experimental registration and airworthiness certificate to an RAA equivalent, which, if true, substantially protects my investment if I lose my medical one day. However I've only been told this, and while I don't necessarily doubt it, I have enough experience with contracts and business negotiations to know that I need to check this statement.
For example in the U.S.A. this is not quite the case, and buying an aircraft with a Constant speed prop dooms you to permanent experimental category even if you take the thing off and replace it with a fixed prop, you still cannot re register as LSA if you fail your medical. Your only option is to sell that aircraft and buy another with LSA registration.
To put it another way, I have to do my due diligence to ensure I don't end up with something I cannot legally fly in the manner in which I wish.
P.S. Since I've been sailing and maintaining my yachts since age Nine, they work out fine as investments for me although the return is in pure satisfaction. Not so the happless person who cannot maintain their vessel themselves.
I haven't had time these last few weeks to seek out any further information from anyone since I'm now deep in the job of being an executor for an estate and that miserable and exacting job is going to keep me busy for some months. I appreciate Jabba and XXX's offers of advice, but I can't take them up right now. I've joined SAAA, but don't have time to engage with them right now either.
As for "a few Internet posts" being a reason for a decision, there has been a consistent stream of allegations and opinions regarding the regulatory environment in Australian Aviation that are not pretty. Some of them may be fanciful, some of them maybe not so fanciful.
The most hair raising allegations involve dishonesty and persecution with the threat of criminal prosecution of innocent aviators. One of those involved a PZL Wilga where a CASA officer was found to have lied, and his lie was supported by other liars. Another involving Polar Aviation is before the Courts.
I have to ask myself the question; will I willingly continue to engage with a regulator if even a quarter of the allegations made are true? Furthermore, will I willingly strengthen that engagement, as I must, if I acquire an aircraft? All my encounters with CASA have been cordial so far, but what if my luck changes?
Let me make one thing clear. I do not believe in the "safety in numbers" theory of coping with that situation. I do not believe "being invisible" is either a safe or workable strategy, because one day, like in random breath testing, you will end up getting ramp checked when you least expect it, and God help you if you encounter an angry CASA official looking to take their frustration out on someone, and not being to careful about how they do it. At least with the Victorian Police force there is an office of police integrity as a check on such behaviour. CASA has nought.
Then there is the question of the regulations and policies themselves. This is another minefield of uncertainty, as has endlessly been discussed. We have both a new part 91 in the works and a new office of sport aviation just created. Clearly that officer will review sport aviation policies. This again creates uncertainty and risk.
I have to track down and deal with each of these uncertainties in order to manage risk. For example, there are the questions of restrictions on operations and flying over populated areas. I can get plenty of verbal advice on these matters but none of it is in writing produced by CASA.
To put it another way, "wink wink, nod nod, I'll just do this to your papers, etc." does not cut it with me. It may be that there is a body of established interpretation and long standing custom in Sport aviation that is accepted by CASA/RAA/SAAA alike, but I haven't been able to confirm this yet although JABA, SAAA and VH - XXX may confirm this - when I have time.
By way of example, I've been told that an aircraft can be transferred from an experimental registration and airworthiness certificate to an RAA equivalent, which, if true, substantially protects my investment if I lose my medical one day. However I've only been told this, and while I don't necessarily doubt it, I have enough experience with contracts and business negotiations to know that I need to check this statement.
For example in the U.S.A. this is not quite the case, and buying an aircraft with a Constant speed prop dooms you to permanent experimental category even if you take the thing off and replace it with a fixed prop, you still cannot re register as LSA if you fail your medical. Your only option is to sell that aircraft and buy another with LSA registration.
To put it another way, I have to do my due diligence to ensure I don't end up with something I cannot legally fly in the manner in which I wish.
P.S. Since I've been sailing and maintaining my yachts since age Nine, they work out fine as investments for me although the return is in pure satisfaction. Not so the happless person who cannot maintain their vessel themselves.
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By way of example, I've been told that an aircraft can be transferred from an experimental registration and airworthiness certificate to an RAA equivalent, which, if true, substantially protects my investment if I lose my medical one day.
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The malfeasance continues. The latest offerings on behalf of CASA senior management as follows -
1/ The screaming skull and friends are desperately trying to pinpoint the source or identity of those tipping the dirt on the poorly run malevolent outfit. It is more like an avalanche really and is gathering momentum by the day. Unless the executives are brought to account the campaign will continue relentlessly. Rather than fix the problem CASA again choose to commence a witch hunt and intimidate staff, suspects and anybody else they choose. No laws or morals adhered to with this mob.
2/ Mr Alleck pulled the pin on several projects of late. First was CASA's setting up a training organisation similar to that which the Singaporean CAA run. Over $500 000 has thus far been spent only to be canned after the FAA and ICAO walked away happy after recent activities. Another $500 000 has been put on ice, but the project not ‘officially’ canceled, the reason being that on the books the project appears to be ongoing and as a result no uncomfortable questions are raised at the senate estimates asking where the remainder of the money is and why has a further $500 000 been flushed away. Sneaky indeed, and this has gone on for years but the time has come to open the can of worms on CASA antics and the way CASA fools the senate and ministers. No risk assessment was conducted at any stage as to the impact of any restructure, which is no surprise due to the way the whole saga has been exercised. Furthermore staff have again been screwed and industry denied a positive change. It is becoming more evident that the ASOP working group who achieved nothing in 3 years and wasted over $5 million not completing34 projects and subsequent projects oover-sighted by Mr Alleck, Mr Boyd, Mr Harbor and others is shaping up to be CASA's greatest waste of taxpayer money yet. Great work isn't it? Senators, please check the ‘real books’ and accounting practise’s over the past 10 years for a start, you may be shocked at what you find if you forensically analyze the books.
3/ Just coming to light is CASA's foreign agency branch debacle. This department ran seperate to normal operations and has provided assistance to the EU and Indonesia and contributed to several carriers regaining international status. However, Terry F, Skull and Gary H personally tore the department apart after several years operating. As a result $200 000 went down the gurgler while Alleck toyed with a restructure and staff apparently did nothing. Even worse, Alleck employed a former journalist from infrastructure to run the agency, and run it into the ground. This former journalist also destroyed PASO, and the total mess is sloppy and ongoing I have been instructed, and I have been provided with documentation. Again, no risk assessment conducted, just a bureaucrat and his personal ego and self centered pride. Very dangerous territory. This man also fancies himself as an international guru of relations yet he has caused untold damage. Even ICAO were desperate to kick him off the international counsel when he was a member. How can a thesis writer who wouldn’t know a coil from systems analysis know how to manage an aviation department?
4/ International operations. Interesting how Senator Heffernan asked Joyce about CASA and ATSB's funding and whether more funds are needed? Mr Alleck has had oversight also of that departments demise as it operates short staffed, without proper leadership and within an environment that has seen a rapid growth in low cost international operations. Many many FOI's are desperately concerned that a foreign operator with Aussies on-board is going to spear into the ground. This is what happens when CASA politicians are in charge and when they have no aviation and safety background. The hierarchy is out of control, making perilous moves when not sipping Chateau Le Blanc and eating truffles at ICAO gigs. The fish is rotting at the head Senators. Staff numbers are being cut and oversight contracted out to mates rates consultants who are not interested in safety but rather where they will but their next property investment courtesy of the taxpayer.
5/ FOI's are enduring cuts to line training, currency and type certification. This has been pushed by budget cuts enforced by senior management. Again, no risk assessment or analysis has been undertaken. Money comes first and safety last. And you think Jetstar has issues? Minimal training in any field is being provided which in turn is creating an inspectorate of underperforming staff. AWI's are not receiving latest technological training for systems
6/ Harassment and intimidation continues from senior managers down to field office managers. A recent survey has lambasted the executives, field office managers and as usual the HR bullies. How much is enough. Numerous unions are in agreeance with the inspectorate regarding the viscous and intimidating manner in which the executives are treating staff and industry members. The Brisbane field office manager has been bullying staff verbally and intimidating staff. The Sydney and Melbourne field office managers have done the same but also added to sexual harassment to their list of misdemeanors. It is thoroughly out of control.
7/ FRMS. Fatigue is plaguing staff numbers with inspectors overloaded and burning out. Interesting is that another issue has been CASA's slapped together poor industry forums relating to FRMS which has met great disdain from industry due to the unprofessional sloppy manner it has been thrown out there. This is under the explicit direction of Terry F and P Boyd. Both these men have been instrumental in several large scale botched projects and have well and truly passed their use by date. You cannot have a former and questionable pilot and a corporate incompetent running projects any longer. Its time to go.
8/ Board members. Another drain on resources. Since the introduction of the board, demise of Byron and introduction of the Skull CASA has sunk to even lower levels of incompetence. More money is wasted and more problems exist. A board that makes glossy brochures containing a multitude of wank words does not justify its existence. Time to cut it loose.
I have been contacted with emails of support for the crusade I am championing, to those I say thank you. I also appreciate the level of encouragement and words of wisdom and warning. I fear no legal reprise, CASA already stole my livelihood. As for embarrassing the Minster, I have not done this, the Minister has done that to himself by not doing his job correctly and managing his portfolio effectively and accurately. For those of you who feel I and others merely have an axe to grind over prior minor injustices, you are far from correct. Truths will continue to be aired until the day that this whole debacle and farcical organisation is held to account. Remember one thing friends, as long as this industry's dangerous condition continues to exist, it is mine and your families who are in danger.
1/ The screaming skull and friends are desperately trying to pinpoint the source or identity of those tipping the dirt on the poorly run malevolent outfit. It is more like an avalanche really and is gathering momentum by the day. Unless the executives are brought to account the campaign will continue relentlessly. Rather than fix the problem CASA again choose to commence a witch hunt and intimidate staff, suspects and anybody else they choose. No laws or morals adhered to with this mob.
2/ Mr Alleck pulled the pin on several projects of late. First was CASA's setting up a training organisation similar to that which the Singaporean CAA run. Over $500 000 has thus far been spent only to be canned after the FAA and ICAO walked away happy after recent activities. Another $500 000 has been put on ice, but the project not ‘officially’ canceled, the reason being that on the books the project appears to be ongoing and as a result no uncomfortable questions are raised at the senate estimates asking where the remainder of the money is and why has a further $500 000 been flushed away. Sneaky indeed, and this has gone on for years but the time has come to open the can of worms on CASA antics and the way CASA fools the senate and ministers. No risk assessment was conducted at any stage as to the impact of any restructure, which is no surprise due to the way the whole saga has been exercised. Furthermore staff have again been screwed and industry denied a positive change. It is becoming more evident that the ASOP working group who achieved nothing in 3 years and wasted over $5 million not completing34 projects and subsequent projects oover-sighted by Mr Alleck, Mr Boyd, Mr Harbor and others is shaping up to be CASA's greatest waste of taxpayer money yet. Great work isn't it? Senators, please check the ‘real books’ and accounting practise’s over the past 10 years for a start, you may be shocked at what you find if you forensically analyze the books.
3/ Just coming to light is CASA's foreign agency branch debacle. This department ran seperate to normal operations and has provided assistance to the EU and Indonesia and contributed to several carriers regaining international status. However, Terry F, Skull and Gary H personally tore the department apart after several years operating. As a result $200 000 went down the gurgler while Alleck toyed with a restructure and staff apparently did nothing. Even worse, Alleck employed a former journalist from infrastructure to run the agency, and run it into the ground. This former journalist also destroyed PASO, and the total mess is sloppy and ongoing I have been instructed, and I have been provided with documentation. Again, no risk assessment conducted, just a bureaucrat and his personal ego and self centered pride. Very dangerous territory. This man also fancies himself as an international guru of relations yet he has caused untold damage. Even ICAO were desperate to kick him off the international counsel when he was a member. How can a thesis writer who wouldn’t know a coil from systems analysis know how to manage an aviation department?
4/ International operations. Interesting how Senator Heffernan asked Joyce about CASA and ATSB's funding and whether more funds are needed? Mr Alleck has had oversight also of that departments demise as it operates short staffed, without proper leadership and within an environment that has seen a rapid growth in low cost international operations. Many many FOI's are desperately concerned that a foreign operator with Aussies on-board is going to spear into the ground. This is what happens when CASA politicians are in charge and when they have no aviation and safety background. The hierarchy is out of control, making perilous moves when not sipping Chateau Le Blanc and eating truffles at ICAO gigs. The fish is rotting at the head Senators. Staff numbers are being cut and oversight contracted out to mates rates consultants who are not interested in safety but rather where they will but their next property investment courtesy of the taxpayer.
5/ FOI's are enduring cuts to line training, currency and type certification. This has been pushed by budget cuts enforced by senior management. Again, no risk assessment or analysis has been undertaken. Money comes first and safety last. And you think Jetstar has issues? Minimal training in any field is being provided which in turn is creating an inspectorate of underperforming staff. AWI's are not receiving latest technological training for systems
6/ Harassment and intimidation continues from senior managers down to field office managers. A recent survey has lambasted the executives, field office managers and as usual the HR bullies. How much is enough. Numerous unions are in agreeance with the inspectorate regarding the viscous and intimidating manner in which the executives are treating staff and industry members. The Brisbane field office manager has been bullying staff verbally and intimidating staff. The Sydney and Melbourne field office managers have done the same but also added to sexual harassment to their list of misdemeanors. It is thoroughly out of control.
7/ FRMS. Fatigue is plaguing staff numbers with inspectors overloaded and burning out. Interesting is that another issue has been CASA's slapped together poor industry forums relating to FRMS which has met great disdain from industry due to the unprofessional sloppy manner it has been thrown out there. This is under the explicit direction of Terry F and P Boyd. Both these men have been instrumental in several large scale botched projects and have well and truly passed their use by date. You cannot have a former and questionable pilot and a corporate incompetent running projects any longer. Its time to go.
8/ Board members. Another drain on resources. Since the introduction of the board, demise of Byron and introduction of the Skull CASA has sunk to even lower levels of incompetence. More money is wasted and more problems exist. A board that makes glossy brochures containing a multitude of wank words does not justify its existence. Time to cut it loose.
I have been contacted with emails of support for the crusade I am championing, to those I say thank you. I also appreciate the level of encouragement and words of wisdom and warning. I fear no legal reprise, CASA already stole my livelihood. As for embarrassing the Minster, I have not done this, the Minister has done that to himself by not doing his job correctly and managing his portfolio effectively and accurately. For those of you who feel I and others merely have an axe to grind over prior minor injustices, you are far from correct. Truths will continue to be aired until the day that this whole debacle and farcical organisation is held to account. Remember one thing friends, as long as this industry's dangerous condition continues to exist, it is mine and your families who are in danger.
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Given the Caroline Tulip matter tested the bounds, I can't imagine why anyone would be so stupid as to put such an amount of detail on the public domain that was untrue if it could not be verified under oath.
It would seem from the last post that a witch hunt is under way, not to investigate the claims, but to persecute the author.
This plus the absence of repudiating statements is intriguing in itself and lends credence to that detail if those mentioned are reluctant to test the claims in public.
Perhaps they will be tested under parliamentary Privilege in the Senate.
It would seem from the last post that a witch hunt is under way, not to investigate the claims, but to persecute the author.
This plus the absence of repudiating statements is intriguing in itself and lends credence to that detail if those mentioned are reluctant to test the claims in public.
Perhaps they will be tested under parliamentary Privilege in the Senate.
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Mate,
whoever you are, I have to admire your balls.
Like you I agree the truth must eventually be brought out, and
these assholes dragged in front of a body that can administer
a severe lesson in what can happen if you push honest people too far.
I have spent almost 47 years in the aviation Industry, not much to show for it, but someone asked me once if I had my time over again would I change anything....answer a very definite NO..I have seen things and done things that ordinary people can only imagine, its been a wonderful life.
Since my return from overseas and re-engaging with the industry in Australia, I am getting increasingly depressed, watching the systematic
destruction of the Industry by the regulator, it is a true statement the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
My heartfelt thanks to you for your efforts to bring this corruption into
the public arena, not sure if I can offer anything but moral support, but if there is anything just PM me, I'll do my best.
Someone once said "Maintain the rage"..wasnt me but I wish it had been.
Take care
whoever you are, I have to admire your balls.
Like you I agree the truth must eventually be brought out, and
these assholes dragged in front of a body that can administer
a severe lesson in what can happen if you push honest people too far.
I have spent almost 47 years in the aviation Industry, not much to show for it, but someone asked me once if I had my time over again would I change anything....answer a very definite NO..I have seen things and done things that ordinary people can only imagine, its been a wonderful life.
Since my return from overseas and re-engaging with the industry in Australia, I am getting increasingly depressed, watching the systematic
destruction of the Industry by the regulator, it is a true statement the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
My heartfelt thanks to you for your efforts to bring this corruption into
the public arena, not sure if I can offer anything but moral support, but if there is anything just PM me, I'll do my best.
Someone once said "Maintain the rage"..wasnt me but I wish it had been.
Take care
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More CASA Instruments - Sports Aviation
On 8 June 2011, the Executive Manager, Standards Development and Future Technology Division, signed the following instruments:
- CASA 146/11 (Authorisation of persons to carry out maintenance on certain amateur built and kit built aircraft with a special certificate of airworthiness/Appointment of authorised persons to issue maintenance releases for certain amateur-built and kit-built aircraft with a special certificate of airworthiness. This instrument revokes CASA 58/11 and remakes it in almost identical terms except to reflect the existence of aircraft engineer licences (AELs). The instrument applies to certain builders of amateur built and kit built aircraft.
- CASA 147/11 (Appointment of authorised persons to issue maintenance releases). This instrument revokes CASA 127/95 and remakes it in almost identical terms except to reflect the existence of AELs.
- CASA 155/11 (Authorisation to carry out Schedule 8 maintenance on Class B aircraft). This instrument revokes CASA 519/04 and remakes it in almost identical terms except to reflect the existence of AELs.
Yes, if it has an Experimental Certificate and owned still by the builder.
Quite a few might still be operating on a full/normal Cert of Airworthiness, so those ones don't qualify. Switch to Experimental Cert and away you go - but BUILDER/OWNER only, no buyers.
Quite a few might still be operating on a full/normal Cert of Airworthiness, so those ones don't qualify. Switch to Experimental Cert and away you go - but BUILDER/OWNER only, no buyers.
Since experimental certificates came in, yes, for builders (who have one), not buyers. ABAA (pure 101.28 - not operating on an experimental certificate); no. (with one exception to SAOG group in QLD)
Still some wrong perceptions out there that 'experimental' means a free for all for any type of airplane. No it does not. Never has. Self Maintainers now also have to comply with the course bit described at the end of the last CASA Instrument.
Still some wrong perceptions out there that 'experimental' means a free for all for any type of airplane. No it does not. Never has. Self Maintainers now also have to comply with the course bit described at the end of the last CASA Instrument.
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Of Libation and Long bows.
In an attempt to maintain peaceful Anglo –American relations during a pre emptive 4th July libation session, some research was later conducted. So much for the libations.
The words written in 1215 and 1776 jump off the page, does history repeat, you bet.
But, if you read past the words and see the spirit and intent, you can clearly see why wars have been fought. These fellah's just got sick of the corruption, the bull****, the taxes, the incompetence and actually did something about it.
Now, I admit it's drawing a long bow (but not too much of stretch) to parallel the current situation in Australian Aviation to these heady thoughts, but it's there.
My Mamma could run Q better than the current bloke; and I'd bet a stack that between Sydney and Perth, there is enough 'real' expert knowledge to make the Fort Fumbles crew look like exactly what they are. Perhaps, just perhaps it's time.
Magna Carta 1215.
39. No freemen shall be taken or imprisoned or disseised or exiled or in any way destroyed, nor will we go upon him nor send upon him, except by the lawful judgment of his peers or by the law of the land.
40. To no one will we sell, to no one will we refuse or delay, right or justice.
The unanimous Declaration etc. 1776.
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security".
"The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world".
Just a Saturday thought.
Go Casaweary.
The words written in 1215 and 1776 jump off the page, does history repeat, you bet.
But, if you read past the words and see the spirit and intent, you can clearly see why wars have been fought. These fellah's just got sick of the corruption, the bull****, the taxes, the incompetence and actually did something about it.
Now, I admit it's drawing a long bow (but not too much of stretch) to parallel the current situation in Australian Aviation to these heady thoughts, but it's there.
My Mamma could run Q better than the current bloke; and I'd bet a stack that between Sydney and Perth, there is enough 'real' expert knowledge to make the Fort Fumbles crew look like exactly what they are. Perhaps, just perhaps it's time.
Magna Carta 1215.
39. No freemen shall be taken or imprisoned or disseised or exiled or in any way destroyed, nor will we go upon him nor send upon him, except by the lawful judgment of his peers or by the law of the land.
40. To no one will we sell, to no one will we refuse or delay, right or justice.
The unanimous Declaration etc. 1776.
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security".
"The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world".
Just a Saturday thought.
Go Casaweary.
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If truth be known, CASA now realises GA is pretty much screwed, so they need another target to justify their existence, keep them going for a few more years...then what??..."NAME CHANGE!!!" errr ???
Here's one "CIVIL AUTHORITY FOR SAFETY OF EVERYTHING".."CASE"!!
WOW!! they could shut down road transport...Shipping...virtually every Industry in Australia, good grief think of all the deputy directors!!!..
The director for Safe Sex!!.."DSS".Imagine the strict liability they could put into that!!..Condoms must be ...mm in thickness..failure to use a condom of the required specification is an offence of strict liability..penalty points 50, anyone think of a few more??..God there are endless possibilities.
Here's one "CIVIL AUTHORITY FOR SAFETY OF EVERYTHING".."CASE"!!
WOW!! they could shut down road transport...Shipping...virtually every Industry in Australia, good grief think of all the deputy directors!!!..
The director for Safe Sex!!.."DSS".Imagine the strict liability they could put into that!!..Condoms must be ...mm in thickness..failure to use a condom of the required specification is an offence of strict liability..penalty points 50, anyone think of a few more??..God there are endless possibilities.
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This was a good thread until it sort of slipped off the radar. Perhaps Casaweary can provide an update from within the organisation as to what the latest events are? He seems to have a handle on some of the mischief. I noticed one of his posts on another thread has been removed, pity. It seems sky sentinel is a somewhat hot potato? Does CASA use that computer system for the smaller end of town also? It seems to be a cluster fu@k.
