Parking at the bowser and wandering off
These people make me very sad.
Pulled up to the bowser in Bourke one day to find old mate at the Bowser. I sit behind him with the engines running because he's clearly finished refuelling. He then gets in plane and decides to take 10 minutes 'preparing' for his next leg. His radio is off so he doesn't respond to my 'suggestion' to move and his engine is running so I can't pull him out of his plane and beat him to death.
Eventually he moves and I 'inform' him over the radio the inconvenience.
About 2 hours later I arrive at Charleville, low and behold, old mate is at the bowser again, and this time initially nowhere to be seen. Eventually I spot him in the shop getting lunch, and then eating it. I sit about an inch behind his plane with engines running and gesticulate to move the bloody thing. He decides to wave and continue eating.
The best part was when I got out and got him to move it, he casually saunters over and asks me about getting him a job.
Pulled up to the bowser in Bourke one day to find old mate at the Bowser. I sit behind him with the engines running because he's clearly finished refuelling. He then gets in plane and decides to take 10 minutes 'preparing' for his next leg. His radio is off so he doesn't respond to my 'suggestion' to move and his engine is running so I can't pull him out of his plane and beat him to death.
Eventually he moves and I 'inform' him over the radio the inconvenience.
About 2 hours later I arrive at Charleville, low and behold, old mate is at the bowser again, and this time initially nowhere to be seen. Eventually I spot him in the shop getting lunch, and then eating it. I sit about an inch behind his plane with engines running and gesticulate to move the bloody thing. He decides to wave and continue eating.
The best part was when I got out and got him to move it, he casually saunters over and asks me about getting him a job.
Great story that one 'dus' makes for interesting reading:-) Same thing happens out on the roads daily (poor car-man-ship) but road rage is the result. Hopefully pilots are more tolerant/professional but it won't be long before some one gets their snout kicked in at a fuel pump !
I doubt these people do it on purpose they simply don't think outside their own little world. I'd like a dollar for every time I have been loading/unloading a patient(back in the good 'ole days) & have had to endure some pilot running up his engine prior to t/off right beside us as well as pilots parking right in front of us blocking our taxi out path, they just have no idea, it's amazing they even know which side of the plane to sit on!
Airman-ship is a lost art these days
Wmk2
I doubt these people do it on purpose they simply don't think outside their own little world. I'd like a dollar for every time I have been loading/unloading a patient(back in the good 'ole days) & have had to endure some pilot running up his engine prior to t/off right beside us as well as pilots parking right in front of us blocking our taxi out path, they just have no idea, it's amazing they even know which side of the plane to sit on!
Airman-ship is a lost art these days
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I recently watched a 206 meat-bomb pilot "wedge" his way in between two aircraft that were parked at the bowser when he could have easily pulled the aircraft straight in, with little effort. In wedging his way in he fully plastered one of the aircraft whilst the owner of said aircraft was in front of the 206 at high rpm initiating the "cut-engine" sign (arm/hand across throat). Upon completion of the act the pilot of the 206 got out and told the other aircraft owner that he should have moved his aircraft. The end result was a full-blown verbal assualt the likes of which I have not seen before. Had one of them not been the manager of the site, things would have ended differently.
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Boys, push the offending plane out of the way and put your own wheel lock on it for an hour or so
Soldat,
Care to give me a date when that happened?
We generally don't allow that to happen here at Charleville.
We would only allow someone to leave their machine at the bowser if we knew no-one was coming.
185.
Care to give me a date when that happened?
We generally don't allow that to happen here at Charleville.
We would only allow someone to leave their machine at the bowser if we knew no-one was coming.
185.
Boys, push the offending plane out of the way and put your own wheel lock on it for an hour or so 
Push their aircraft away and then let the tyres down, it needs to be in that order. Or else it gets very hard to push....
Any unauthorised interference with my aeroplane will result in the appropriate authorities becoming involved.
I believe that it is an offence to interfere with an aircraft - and not something that should be encouraged here, regardless of how irritating the jerk flying it might be.
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While on the subject of fuel bowsers:
How hard is it to guide the hose back into the reel with foot/hand to stop it all collecting on one side, so when the next poor bastard (me) comes along and tries to pull it out, it slips off the side, rendering bowser U/S until repairs can be done (3 days later)..?! Is this my fault?
I'm not old (I think), so I won't point at Gen Y, but it does seem that these days lots of people are not thinking some things through..!
I'm guilty of parking on bowsers to take a leak, and maybe load a pax, but not if I'm stopping another fellow pilot from his departure times...!!!
How hard is it to guide the hose back into the reel with foot/hand to stop it all collecting on one side, so when the next poor bastard (me) comes along and tries to pull it out, it slips off the side, rendering bowser U/S until repairs can be done (3 days later)..?! Is this my fault?
I'm not old (I think), so I won't point at Gen Y, but it does seem that these days lots of people are not thinking some things through..!
I'm guilty of parking on bowsers to take a leak, and maybe load a pax, but not if I'm stopping another fellow pilot from his departure times...!!!
We are all lucky that coast watch dont fly islanders anymore.
These ignorant pricks would pull up a mile from the bowser blocking the taxi way, refuel ,wash the aircraft, go into the refueler office to have a chat and then take 15 minutes to start the hot engines.
If they refueled before the days operation, refuel,read maps on the nose, get a coffee while watching the line of aircraft with engines running waiting to get fuel.
These ignorant pricks would pull up a mile from the bowser blocking the taxi way, refuel ,wash the aircraft, go into the refueler office to have a chat and then take 15 minutes to start the hot engines.
If they refueled before the days operation, refuel,read maps on the nose, get a coffee while watching the line of aircraft with engines running waiting to get fuel.
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Boys, push the offending plane out of the way and put your own wheel lock on it for an hour or so
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Gen Y?
No offence to you gen Y folk, but the way some have their brains wired, they just don't seem to notice when they're really inconveniencing and pissing off us grissly old wrinklies... Its not that they don't care, they just don't have the capacity to sense it.... they are almost always very polite and apologetic when these things are gently brought to their attention. You cant blame the poor darlings, they cannot helpi it
Traffic seperation OCTA is a good one - I've been given the impression at times that because some pilots are older they automatically assume that they are superior and therefore don't need to tell me where they are before I blast off and end up seeing them far too close to me and trying to get a word on in on the radio in between the TCAS going ape $hit!
But yes, Gen Y or not, being a bowser hog is blatantly inconsiderate.
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Even a low time PPL like me knows that you don't leave your aircraft in front of the bowser.
I have a slightly different issue. I can't stand people who don't HELP each other. If you are in a hurry to fuel, then why not give the guy in front of you a hand with the hose and pushing the aircraft? Don't just sit there watching while he rolls the hose all the way up and struggles to get the aircraft out of the way!
It's the golden rule, someday when you are old and wrinkly, maybe they will give you a hand...
I have a slightly different issue. I can't stand people who don't HELP each other. If you are in a hurry to fuel, then why not give the guy in front of you a hand with the hose and pushing the aircraft? Don't just sit there watching while he rolls the hose all the way up and struggles to get the aircraft out of the way!
It's the golden rule, someday when you are old and wrinkly, maybe they will give you a hand...
Actually Sunfish I have some good news helping stories,
The first time I went away solo with a mate we were scratching our head trying to pull the hose out (it was really stiff). A guy who had parked and was heading out noticed our difficulty, wandered over and moved the little lever that moves it from reverse to forward
no problems after that!
Another time at Mildura we had a 'window lock failure' in our 172 and the airport car guy (do they have an official title?) came over and gave us a hand, fetching duct tape etc.
The world of the GA brotherhood is still there.
On the other hand we reckon the failure was caused by 2 R44s taxiing and landing very close to the aircraft, the rotor wash was so strong it yawed the aircraft almost 20 degrees (we checked the photos we took when we landed and it was definitely a straight park at that time!)
The first time I went away solo with a mate we were scratching our head trying to pull the hose out (it was really stiff). A guy who had parked and was heading out noticed our difficulty, wandered over and moved the little lever that moves it from reverse to forward
no problems after that!Another time at Mildura we had a 'window lock failure' in our 172 and the airport car guy (do they have an official title?) came over and gave us a hand, fetching duct tape etc.
The world of the GA brotherhood is still there.
On the other hand we reckon the failure was caused by 2 R44s taxiing and landing very close to the aircraft, the rotor wash was so strong it yawed the aircraft almost 20 degrees (we checked the photos we took when we landed and it was definitely a straight park at that time!)
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...airport car guy (do they have an official title?)
I think it's important to remember that we're talking about a minority of insconsiderate jerks and most people in aviation are usually quite the opposite. That's my experience, anyway.
I knew a guy who used to jump up & down & carry on a treat if someone else was in front of the bowser when he wanted to get fuel, but once he was there he would take his sweet time moving no matter how many were lined up behind him!
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