Is RACWA on finals? YOU WERE WARNED!!
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The drink driving rules had little effect compared to the Impost on members the "commercial " training created.
Making the club into a " commercial" operation with amateur managers spelt the death knell, reality it is only a matter of time, sad but true !
Making the club into a " commercial" operation with amateur managers spelt the death knell, reality it is only a matter of time, sad but true !
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Guys this is sad news. What can be done? I very much enjoy learning to fly and to me, the staff who remember your name, the instructors that take more time than they should, and the other people i've met while at the club, flying and non-flying folk, will all be impacted if the end is truly near. Surely the business as a whole cannot be that close to going under?
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Yup, Tis surely terminal, amateurs pretending to be business people playing with stakeholders money ( the members) as if they are a forgotten people.
Members make a club, pretenders destroy all that goodwill.
Hard to replicate, concessions foregone, a management car crash.
Cheap building in the end for the next occupant.
Was really a dream castle, tore the real club apart.
Members make a club, pretenders destroy all that goodwill.
Hard to replicate, concessions foregone, a management car crash.
Cheap building in the end for the next occupant.
Was really a dream castle, tore the real club apart.
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As a RACWA member since the early 90's, and later a CPL student there, last year I made the decision not to renew my membership. Quoted 5 hours flight time plus briefings just to achieve "RACWA currency" so that I could private-hire one of their aircraft. There are other operators at YPJT with a much more practical and personal approach ( and with more modern aircraft) and that's where my limited budget has to be directed. Also the insular nature around the club would have its members believe that all the competitors were sub-par in terms of safety and quality (training and aircraft), with RACWA the pinnacle of aviation training. This is simply not the case, and it's not until leaving the confines of the club that this becomes clear... As times get tighter for perople financially, I think there is a tendency for folks to do a bit more research on which school to choose. This has to be eroding their base..
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Racwa member here- have not flown with them for ~ 6 months as im ppl looking at going onto cpl with new a/c.
Had enough of all the bull**** and been waiting way way too long for new a/c and theres nothing. They dont care for members anymore its all about that cash cow for them. Look at members get the new a/c get ride of the 10 planes that sit there and dont get utilized.
Have done some reaserch and there are alot better options at other schools. Allthough the intructors I have had at racwa are great i fear that if nothing comes within the next month or 2 I will resume my training elsewhere
Had enough of all the bull**** and been waiting way way too long for new a/c and theres nothing. They dont care for members anymore its all about that cash cow for them. Look at members get the new a/c get ride of the 10 planes that sit there and dont get utilized.
Have done some reaserch and there are alot better options at other schools. Allthough the intructors I have had at racwa are great i fear that if nothing comes within the next month or 2 I will resume my training elsewhere
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Already at that point ^^^
I think the it has more initial attraction to more people, being seen as a big company where people think bigger is better to start off with.
Then after a few month they see that, just like anyother big company, they are after more and more profit.
I wish i was able to make my choice again, due to the fact of the constant price rises, ive spent 50+ k in getting my CPL, not even there yet. Now im working two jobs to be able to keep the dream alive. Even then the light at the end of the tunnel is slowly burning out.
I think the it has more initial attraction to more people, being seen as a big company where people think bigger is better to start off with.
Then after a few month they see that, just like anyother big company, they are after more and more profit.
I wish i was able to make my choice again, due to the fact of the constant price rises, ive spent 50+ k in getting my CPL, not even there yet. Now im working two jobs to be able to keep the dream alive. Even then the light at the end of the tunnel is slowly burning out.
Any news come out of the AGM??
I learnt to fly at RACWA 10 years ago, I don't think their fleet has changed much in that time (maybe got 10 years older)
When i was there it seemed like the best place on the strip to learn, big company, lots of aircraft parked out the front, all the bells and whistles. It even had a pub on top of it!!
Although I wouldn't want it fail completely I think it needs a drastic overhaul, clean out the dead wood and start again with a new plan. Too many stale ideas and delusions of grandeur around the place
I learnt to fly at RACWA 10 years ago, I don't think their fleet has changed much in that time (maybe got 10 years older)
When i was there it seemed like the best place on the strip to learn, big company, lots of aircraft parked out the front, all the bells and whistles. It even had a pub on top of it!!
Although I wouldn't want it fail completely I think it needs a drastic overhaul, clean out the dead wood and start again with a new plan. Too many stale ideas and delusions of grandeur around the place
short flights long nights
To Captain Bloggs
Yes you a correct mate in a way..but you and I grew up in that place, and your mum and dad were one of the "rocks" of the outfit. And the weekend nights that carried on to weekend mornings to a certain house on the river were part of history..but when that new building came, it was like the soul was removed..something changed. (Member for 36 years)
Yes the previous CEO and President have left the place reeling. Their incompetence has left a once healthy club with a huge debt.
We can only hope that the new CEO, President and committee can work together to work their way through it. The club in it's history has recovered before and hopefully it will again.
I for one, certainly have much more confidence in the new team. They are all long time members and have it's interest at heart. They, unlike their predescessors have aviation knowledge - so the club has to be better off than it has been for the last few disastrous years.
We can only hope that the new CEO, President and committee can work together to work their way through it. The club in it's history has recovered before and hopefully it will again.
I for one, certainly have much more confidence in the new team. They are all long time members and have it's interest at heart. They, unlike their predescessors have aviation knowledge - so the club has to be better off than it has been for the last few disastrous years.
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Jonny 56, as you said.....
Although I wouldn't want it fail completely I think it needs a drastic overhaul, clean out the dead wood and start again with a new plan. Too many stale ideas and delusions of grandeur around the place
UH - OH...!!
To ALL interested RAC Members - who will receive the 'Tarmac Topics' very very soon.....and interested 'other parties'....
IT AIN'T PRETTY.....
The news, that is.
Apparently 'previous management' left a LOT to be desired, and a host of 'external factors' outside the Club's control, including the GFC, the Aussie Dollar and its effect on the WAAC, resulting in lost sales etc. - have all taken their toll.
The issues are many and varied.
There is a level of debt which has to be 'satisfied' - A 'restructure' of finances / management etc. - and MEMBERS are ALL being asked basically, and with apologies to the late JFK.....
Not, what can my Club do for me, but, what can I do for MY CLUB??
Cheers, and all the very best to all
"Now is the time to come to the aid of the Party"........
IT AIN'T PRETTY.....
The news, that is.
Apparently 'previous management' left a LOT to be desired, and a host of 'external factors' outside the Club's control, including the GFC, the Aussie Dollar and its effect on the WAAC, resulting in lost sales etc. - have all taken their toll.
The issues are many and varied.
There is a level of debt which has to be 'satisfied' - A 'restructure' of finances / management etc. - and MEMBERS are ALL being asked basically, and with apologies to the late JFK.....
Not, what can my Club do for me, but, what can I do for MY CLUB??
Cheers, and all the very best to all
"Now is the time to come to the aid of the Party"........
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