V Australia HR Shame..

[Snatch]

So the stars lined up on the day. 'in leave it alone!

Swift6 is happy, VA is happy, but 404 wants to impose his religious views on everyone else

[404 Titan]

Snatch

Maybe your smart arse attitude sunshine is why DJ and JQ haven’t given you an interview yet? This is a small industry and if you want to go and burn some bridges be my guest. With only 4500 hours to your name though you have a lot to learn.

[stealthone]

New aircraft

So, what is the scheduled delivery date for aircraft No5?

[330_Flyer]

404, all due respect intended I believe the notice for resignation has no bearing on this matter.

1. Employer is aware that a full time flying position is being sought, and furthermore the company was supportive of him seeking this position.
2. On AL and sought employers OK before accepting the position.
3. Company isn't left in the lurch as there is another pilot to do the required flying.
4. Swift6 will be going in after his training, on his OWN TIME, to complete the tasks he was working on.

Sounds to me like a very healthy working relationship for all parties. I certainly don't get the impression that anybody is upset or feels as though the wrong thing has been done by them, especially considering Swift6 will be going in and completing any loose ends (Seriously, how often does that happen).

My 2 cents.

[404 Titan]

330_Flyer

If you haven’t figured out that the point I was trying to make is a general one, then I can’t help you. I accept that Swift6’s circumstances maybe an exception but I can tell you as a former chief pilot, pilots trying to leave without giving their contractually required one months notice wasn’t unusual. Some places now require three months. If people don’t lift their game this type of notice will become normal in the industry. Have a look at your current contract and work out how much it will cost you if you left without giving the required notice. Now work it out if you had to give three months notice.

It doesn’t help the industry when some companies are encouraging pilots to break their current contract.

[Snatch]

Thanks 404, I'll keep it in mind.

Maybe aged 42 you've got it all sorted out and an answer for everyone's problems?

Face it - you made an assumption about the circumstances and held forth with your sermon only to find that the actual situation is completely different. You made a **** of yourself and now you feel you have to defend it instead of letting it go.

Deep breath mate, go and take the dog for a walk.

[KRUSTY 34]

Gidday UAL Furlough.

Great news about the command upgrade. When do you start?

[UAL Furlough]

Thanks Krusty,

I start May 4th.

404 Titan,,,for your information I didn't come back to Australia for the end of my career. As you might deduce from my handle, I am a furloughed employee of United Airlines, a 24 year veteran of the United States Marine Corps and a man who married an Australian. After my furlough I gave into the wife and moved to Australia. I have been extremely lucky...got a management job with Qantas as soon as I got here, moved onto Jetstar as an A-320 F/O, A-330 F/O and A-320 Captain. Jetstar didn't really fit my lifestyle and I jumped at the opportunity to move to Vaustralia as a B777 F/O. Now moving on to B-777 Captain. The job here is much better than the Jetstar job and the working conditions and pay are comparable. In the meantime, I became an Australian citizen and I love my new country.

I am just trying to figure out why you want to continue to condemn Vaustralia HR when 3 of the people directly involved in the situation have given you the facts about what happened. It was the PILOT's fault that Vaustralia was in this situation, not Vaustralia HR's fault. Do you not look at the facts or do you just like bitching.

I really am glad that you are not here. We have a great group of guys who love the job, conditions will get better (BTW, conditions have been great so far, what a fantastic job!!).

What are you looking for here????

[adsyj]

That would be Game, Set and Match UALFurlough.

Congrats on the upgrade and becoming an Aussie.

Was lucky to catch up with a VAUS crew on a recent layover in LA, we had a nice dinner and a couple of beers, our skipper was mates with one of the VAUS skips and one thing is for sure all the T & C bull**** aside its always good to share a beer and a feed when a long way from home with a good bunch of blokes and a couple of very attractive V Girls

[neville_nobody]

What are you looking for here????

Unfortunately Aviation is a very tough industry and I have found over the years people are really bitchy about who gets what job and why.....usually try to find some inside gossip as to why a particular person got a job...it's BS and it is very prevalent in the Aviation industry unfortunately. Many people need to move on and get over, IMHO.

[404 Titan]

UAL Furlough

I am the first to admit when I am wrong and in this case I was wrong about you. Please accept my apology. My biff isn’t with Vaus as such it is with HR departments in general and how they operate. It’s a long story which really needs another thread to do it justice.

You certainly have an impressive resume. I guess we have both made assumptions about each other we probably shouldn’t have. I left Australia ten years ago to work in Asia and in that time it has saddened me greatly to see what has happened to the pilot profession in my country. Don’t get me wrong it is happening everywhere but Australia with New Zealand certainly seems to be leading the downward slide, particularly in this region. We are unfortunately our own worst enemy.

Again please accept my apology. Good luck with your command. By the sounds of it you deserve it.

[UAL Furlough]

404 Titan,

Apology accepted.

I understand where you are coming from, but in this particular case Vaustralia HR was not at fault.

Take care.

[pettycoat pilot]

Nice One

Nice one Bill! You did condem JS HR when we met though, so ....... People do make mistakes but HR in VB/VA do think they can work outside the rules, but agree in this case only, they could be right.