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positive_RoC 23rd Feb 2010 09:11

V Australia HR Shame..
 
It seems V Aus HR are on the bongs!! I was recently offered an interview with V Aus which would have required me to disappear from work in under 24 hours as they had a cancellation. They did advise that I should let them know asap which I indicated I would. Then less than 2 hours later they say that the spot has been filled.

"We have had an interview slot open up on x day at x time, if you can attend. Can you please respond to this email ASAP as we have limited spots available.

Regards

Flight Crew Recruitment
V Australia"


Is there anything in this email to suggest that it is an auction styled offer???

Can anyone tell me how a working pilot is meant to have annual leave commencing in under 24 hours approved in under 120 minutes????:ugh:

A mate of mine was also given a confirmed interview and had it changed three times, such that the third offer preceded his flight arrival time... flights forfeitted!! and now he looks like a knob because he has been jerking his manager around with seemingly sporadic annual leave requests.

Are Voz looking for unemployed bums living in Brisbane hanging off their email because it seems that they believe you shouldn't let your current employment get in the way of this honour bestowed upon you!!!:yuk:

coaldemon 23rd Feb 2010 11:39

Why don't you save yourself some time as it looks like your attitude is so poor the last thing any airline should do is bother interviewing or employing you.

An Airline is a dynamic environment and your interview is a long way down the list of most Chief Pilots must do's.

Capt Fathom 23rd Feb 2010 11:57

Yep!

Welcome to aviation! :E

404 Titan 23rd Feb 2010 12:04

coaldemon

As someone who has conducted airline interviews in the past, I would expect a prospective employee to treat his current employer how we would expect to be treated. In my opinion “V Aus” are out of line. As a lot of HR departments these days are run by Gen “Y’s” this doesn’t surprise me one little bit. :yuk:

1224 23rd Feb 2010 12:16

Its Vaus man. You get what you paid for. Or rather what you dont get paid for (ie alot).

If they jerk you round like that at the interview stage, what do you think they'll be like when you work there.

Cost Index 23rd Feb 2010 12:33

Let's just say this.. If their interview process shows such lack of respect for you... then what would that say about working there then? Hmmm...

Cost Index 23rd Feb 2010 12:35

Just read your post 1224, :rolleyes: on the same lines me thinks though! :ok:

MrSheffield 23rd Feb 2010 12:36

I know someone who has been dikked around by Voz Flight Recruitment b4. Nothing new. They obviously couldnt care less who filled the position, as long as someone does. They think most guys would drop everything and anything to attend one of their interviews. Sorry guys your airline aint that f*kn great.

TSIO540 23rd Feb 2010 18:42

Coaldemon calling the kettle black!
 

Why don't you save yourself some time as it looks like your attitude is so poor the last thing any airline should do is bother interviewing or employing you.

An Airline is a dynamic environment and your interview is a long way down the list of most Chief Pilots must do's.
:yuk:

How does not being able to organise leave leave in a couple of hours equate to such a poor attitude?? Would you advise a pilot to simply walk out on his/her current employer for an interview?

Pull you head out of the sand coaldemon!

an3_bolt 23rd Feb 2010 19:02


Would you advise a pilot to simply walk out on his/her current employer for an interview?
Not fair or morally just to ask someone to do that. Conversely looking from the opposite end - "if" you were a "good employer", would you employ someone who has just left their present employment in the lurch?

NoN1 23rd Feb 2010 20:03

Coaldemon, I have read some stupid posts over the years, and yours is right up there. Aviation operations are dynamic. HR is in an office. If the CP is called out there will be someone else able to be called in to fill the interview seat. If there is a cancellation by all means offer an opportunity at short notice to candidates on the chance they may be 'on the spot'. For scheduled interviews, keep with the program. Large operators with dedicated HR have no excuses jerking applicants around, and if they do they have lost their integrity from the beginning and should be avoided if possible.

Furthermore, you seem to be pushing the bar lower in your post, would it hurt to set your expectations higher?

Stationair8 23rd Feb 2010 20:40

Great if you live in Brisvegas working at Woolies/McDonalds/KFC and get drop a shift , you can get there asap, bit different if you live in say Karratha or Derby and the boss has you out on a charter for a few days!

Agree with 1124 and Titan.

skol 24th Feb 2010 03:35

Hey coaldemon,
You sound like one of those guys that will pay the airline to employ you.

neville_nobody 24th Feb 2010 06:09

The old phrase 'a lack of planning on your behalf doesn't constitute an emergency on mine' springs to mind.:}

VOz_HR_Sheik 24th Feb 2010 07:49

Not sure what you are complaining about.

You really should be able to show your 'flair' and jump through all hoops if you expect to get into 'V'.

We dont have a sim ride to cull applicants, so the flexibility of your spine is our best guage.

Consider yourself lucky to have even been called.

Once you have been 'assessed as suitable' by recruitment you at least know what to expect when you join.

Keep up the back bending and reap the benefits of nepotism...... I mean 'merit'.

Welcome to the family.

:ok:

TSIO540 25th Feb 2010 21:50

Yes, they are for Cruise Relief FO positions

blueloo 26th Feb 2010 00:23

Wish I'd been the genius who came up with the HR department! Talk about creating a non-existant/irrelevant job.......now if only I can think of the next must have non-essential department

Gnd Power 26th Feb 2010 09:02

To the OP

being a little precious aren't you!. V only asked if you were available!!!

Oh Yeah, I guess you pulled your application and told them not to call again. :)

cropdusting 26th Feb 2010 10:45

I agree. Despite your whinging, would you turn down another interview offer after such horrible mistreatment.

Also, I'd be careful what you put on here, you never know who's reading - wouldn't be hard for them to work out who you are.

Best of luck to you.

Cactusjack 28th Feb 2010 07:10

VOz HR Sheik,In answer -

Not sure what you are complaining about.
You really should be able to show your 'flair' and jump through all hoops if you expect to get into 'V'.
I have lots of flair, happy to dance a jig, laugh and dance and work for minimun salary just for the chance to be part of Bransons's worldwide campaign against unfair duopoly's ! That's me.


We dont have a sim ride to cull applicants, so the flexibility of your spine is our best guage.
Consider yourself lucky to have even been called.
No SIM Ride, no problem. Can't remember the last time I used one anyway. Is it a 'must have' ? I do have flair instead, does that count ?


Once you have been 'assessed as suitable' by recruitment you at least know what to expect when you join.
Oh yes I do know what to expect. And I cant wait to start my tenure, flying for peanuts to support a crusade against unfair competition, where staff come first and profits last ! Count me in.


Keep up the back bending and reap the benefits of nepotism...... I mean 'merit'.
Nepotism ? Surely not at VOZ ??


Welcome to the family
I agree. I am sure I have the 'must haves' to join, and I can't wait !


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