Virgin Cruise FO: Accepting Interest...
VB just published an internal email soliciting expressions of interest for EJet FO positions. As those positions would be a step down to any other VB pilots, one can safely assume they're expecting CRFOs to be the only ones interested.
Goat out.
Goat out.
Perhaps a step in the right direction? In which case would it not be simpler to offer progression onto the E-Jet and be done with it.
Oh wait a minute, then we couldn't charge for the endorsement!
Oh wait a minute, then we couldn't charge for the endorsement!
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99% of current CFO's do not have the requirements for upgrade within V. They never will if they continue sitting in the back seat.
A select and elite few have and will be interviewed for VB. They are, however, required to complete the full VB recruitment process. This includes a sim check to test their decaying skills.
This is not a seemless transfer.
All successfull candidates will not be told for many weeks and left in limbo until morale is almost non existant.
Now back to my ergo chair.
A select and elite few have and will be interviewed for VB. They are, however, required to complete the full VB recruitment process. This includes a sim check to test their decaying skills.
This is not a seemless transfer.
All successfull candidates will not be told for many weeks and left in limbo until morale is almost non existant.
Now back to my ergo chair.
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Of the recent V upgrades only one of the slots for each rank went internally.
With the recent announcement of aircraft 6 and 7 being turned to options these could be the ONLY internal upgrades for many years.
You would be mad to choose V over VB. Especially with the recently announced 737 order.
Good luck.
Flaps.
With the recent announcement of aircraft 6 and 7 being turned to options these could be the ONLY internal upgrades for many years.
You would be mad to choose V over VB. Especially with the recently announced 737 order.
Good luck.
Flaps.
You'd be surprised Nev'!
Which begs the question, why didn't they apply to VB in the first place? Even Blind feddy, or perhaps the Village Idiot should see the deal (Re: CFO's) is a sh!t sandwich as far as "Experienced" Pilots go.
Which begs the question, why didn't they apply to VB in the first place? Even Blind feddy, or perhaps the Village Idiot should see the deal (Re: CFO's) is a sh!t sandwich as far as "Experienced" Pilots go.
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'Meeting' an airlines requirements means bugger all in the current climate.
I'd be shocked and surprised if QFlink has taken on anyone recently with 800 hours as it states on their website (the guys I know that have recently got in all had circa 2000 tt and then some) and again i'd be shocked and surprised if VB have taken anyone with a bare 1000 and 500 multi as it states on their website recently........so for those of us that may 'meet' an airlines requirements but in reality don't stand a chance of getting a phone call then maybe thats the 'bunch of idiots' that apply for these roles despite having a fair idea of how terrible the conditions are in comparison to other operations locally.
Having been unemployed for quite a while now the back seat of a 777 earning a fraction of what second officers get at other airlines is starting to look sadly appealing.
I'd be shocked and surprised if QFlink has taken on anyone recently with 800 hours as it states on their website (the guys I know that have recently got in all had circa 2000 tt and then some) and again i'd be shocked and surprised if VB have taken anyone with a bare 1000 and 500 multi as it states on their website recently........so for those of us that may 'meet' an airlines requirements but in reality don't stand a chance of getting a phone call then maybe thats the 'bunch of idiots' that apply for these roles despite having a fair idea of how terrible the conditions are in comparison to other operations locally.
Having been unemployed for quite a while now the back seat of a 777 earning a fraction of what second officers get at other airlines is starting to look sadly appealing.
With all due respect NGsim, the pilots I was talking about have vastly more experience than either the QFlink mins or the VB mins or the Jetstar mins or the Tiger mins or the QF mins or even the new REX mins for that matter. Generally what they lack is significant jet time, or more to the point in excess of 2000 hours on Jet A/C above 40 tonnes! Without that, as far as VA is concerned, they're in the back indefinitely! Truth is even the SFO's road to promotion is now looking long and uncertain!
But trust me, in the current climate VA was probably the worst choice they could have made. A little more patience, and a little less wide jet syndrome maybe, and most would certainly have found themselves in a better career situation. I know 10,000 hour + Air Transport pilots that have left solid jobs to go and sit in the back at VA for less than half the money. It really does begger belief.
The VA CFO's with only, or not much more than min requirements for that position, well that's another story, and I take your point.
As for Blind Freddy and the Village Idiot, have another read of my post. They're the one's that can see the deal for what it is and have steered clear!
But trust me, in the current climate VA was probably the worst choice they could have made. A little more patience, and a little less wide jet syndrome maybe, and most would certainly have found themselves in a better career situation. I know 10,000 hour + Air Transport pilots that have left solid jobs to go and sit in the back at VA for less than half the money. It really does begger belief.
The VA CFO's with only, or not much more than min requirements for that position, well that's another story, and I take your point.
As for Blind Freddy and the Village Idiot, have another read of my post. They're the one's that can see the deal for what it is and have steered clear!
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The word at VB is that many of the CFO's at VA with VB's min reqs assume that a right seat on a 737 is their GOD given right above and beyond anyone else. I hope this isnt the case.
I know one or two of them from GA days who thought they were above and beyond. Especially that Danny Devito doppleganger , who when asked if he could lend a hand washing a few 210's ..replied " I dont wash planes..ive got 200 hours on a partnavia....
I know one or two of them from GA days who thought they were above and beyond. Especially that Danny Devito doppleganger , who when asked if he could lend a hand washing a few 210's ..replied " I dont wash planes..ive got 200 hours on a partnavia....
If
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why didn't they go there in first place instead of signing up for the ****tiest airline deal in Australia. The flow in the other direction has been a tiny trickle, which should indicate what the problem is!
CzFOs have the experience and capabilities to enter VB on their own merit
are more than competitive with anyone in GA who is a candidate for VB
