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Old 29th Oct 2009, 23:47
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Murphy still lives

A year or 3 back an implosion in this nations fair capital was treated as a public circus. Perfectly safe said everone, although the family of Katie Bender (12 years of age - more than 400 metres from the implosion) probably no longer believe this. She died when the implosion went slightly (horribly) wrong ...

Motorbikes and helicoptors makes for an impressive stunt but not something to be conducted without a very large safety exclusion zone. I don't know the number, but I wonder what the lethal radius of debris would be? Certainly the photopgrapher and the observer, probably the camera angle we see it from, and the people he rides past to get to the ramp, and possibly even the ferry a couple of hundred metres away on the harbour.

Risk assessment - what can go wrong, the likelihood of the event occurring, the impact if it does. Engine stutter on motorbike 1/2 second before leaving ramp. Highly unlikely. Probably multiple fatalities if it occurs. Rating: high risk. Risk mitigation: large exclusion zone (and probably not on Sydney harbour shoreline).

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Old 30th Oct 2009, 00:14
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Put simply Runaway and to add to what Layman has said.

IDENTIFY Are people, environment or assets exposed to potential harm? What could go wrong?
ASSESS What are the causes and consequences? How likely is it? How bad will it be? What is the risk?
CONTROL Can the causes be eliminated? Is there a better way? How can it be prevented? How effective are the controls?
RECOVER Can the potential consequences be limited? What recovery measures are needed? Are recovery capabilities suitable and sufficient?
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 05:55
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I hereby assess the risk as "nominal". Let's move on... or have we become so anal and politically correct that we actually give credence to such nonsense?

Like any motorsport event, if you are there, you accept the risk. If you don't want to take any risks, wrap yourself up in your feather duvet and don't eat your food with sharp implements. And never, ever go flying, because who is to say that your engine will not fail and you will, as a result, crash into a school, killing hundreds of innocent children?

Nothing is without risk, despite what the fun nazis would have you believe...
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 06:30
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Amen Brother!!
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 07:38
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Life is dangerous, that's why no one survives it.
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 16:56
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Anyone care to muse on the location and degree of forces involved through the downward draw of air through the rotors?


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Old 30th Oct 2009, 17:31
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Yup.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda, might have...

You keep living by those rules and you'll grow old before you decide its safe to leave the house. Life is fleeting. Enjoy it. Once its over you don't have to worry about picking up the pieces
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 18:58
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Pussies! When I was in my 20's, I took a soft tail Harley over two hovering choppers (one on top of the other) with a 707 overhead while smoking a cigarette with a girl on my lap, a beer in the cupholder and no helmets. The cameraman was so flabbergasted that he forgot to shoot film and the Harley being a Harley didn't have a second jump in it.
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 21:04
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Very passable, Obediah.....

Ok then, in the spirit of Monty Python, the Yorkshiremen and their toughest childhood...

Lodown, you were lucky to have a motorbike. When I was 12, my father forced me to jump a unicycle over 12 hovering Chinooks, 10 F-111's with afterburners on, in the middle of the night with no lights, stark naked, wearing dark sun glasses, hands tied together, in winter; I had to land in shark infested murky waters, wrestle a big white shark, all the while an Apache helicopter with a mini-gun tried to shoot me.

And the kids of today ....
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 22:28
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Arr come on. I'll believe most things, but saying you were "stark naked" is pushing it too far

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Old 31st Oct 2009, 00:01
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You lucky, lucky bastid!

When I was a boy we used to dreeeeaaaammm of a unicycle!

I used to get up before I went to sleep, then I had to crawl up a ramp covered in broken glass, climb onto the blades of the hovering helicopter, when I got to the other side I had to get run over by 15 sumo wrestlers on motorbikes, then go for a swim with the crocodiles, if I was lucky dad would belt me with a slightly comatose CASA official (that was all he could find) then I would go home to sleep in a potato sack.....
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Old 31st Oct 2009, 00:22
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Luxxurry!

I wasn't allowed to sleep, had 1000LL for breakfast, I carried a 707 up a ramp of broken glass, through a jet engine and into a sea of hungry great white sharks, I then had to run up the stairs into the control tower, work a double shift, come back down and do it all over again.

And if you told the kids of today that, they wouldn't believe you
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Old 31st Oct 2009, 00:36
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...........rotflmao............

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Old 31st Oct 2009, 01:58
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Unhappy

I agree with Dangly Bits. I don't ever go outside because the sky might fall in.
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Old 31st Oct 2009, 02:01
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That's nothing.

Back in my day I once was forced into the cockpit of a Tonka Truck, towed behind a 747 to gain speed before screaming up a ramp made from Great White Sharks to soar through the air, jumping over 21 CASA officials.... but I didn't make it. I got as far as the first CASA official who gave me 11 RCA's and grounded me pending a show cause notice....

Yep they get is so easy these days.....
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Old 31st Oct 2009, 19:40
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Right, this is getting silly now. What's needed is a good dose of military discipline. By the right, camp it - HUP!
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